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America taking over?? Are you blind or something? That's far from the reality.
The best selling hardware and software this year are these.
PlayStation 4- Japanese
The witcher 3- European
Metal gear solid- Japanese
Grand theft auto 5- European
Super smash bros- Japanese



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Metroid33slayer said:
Xxain said:
Gaming industries worst problems always happen when the western world is leading the charge. Think about everything we be bitch about being gamers. Where did it start?

Are you talking about subscription fees to play online, always online DRM, overpriced dlc, on disc dlc, microtransactions, big ass day one patches, constant system updates and multiple preorder bonuses depending on which store you bought the game from.

I think most of those things  probably did begin in the west but make no mistake the japanese have fully embraced them with open arms. Even nintendo are charging &7 for one character.

 

You didnt even mention the most important ones:

Russian roulette development strategy this not only has been responsible for the death of many companies, but stills any creative juices out of fear it wont make budget back, Eliminate of B tier games where these creative ideas usually, This also means many genres of video games left for dead. 

They have instilled a mindset where tech is more important than the game. Now we have petty tech wars. 

Release broken games on the market knowing they could it patch it later.

Western influence has been a slow poison in the industry. Western mindset is "make money at the expense of a healthier industry."

 I find it shocking anybody could say we are in a better place with west taking charge.



Having a bigger variety and a bit competition in the market is always nice.. though I usually like Japanese games more for some reason



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To be honest I think that the OP really mean Western made games versus Eastern made games. Also I would consider Canadian made games to still be classified as "American" games. And I am Canadian myself so..... xD

As far as European games go. That's a little sketchy. The average gamer probably wouldn't know that GTA V came from the UK. Where as pretty much everyone knows that The Witcher is Polish. The Witcher definitely has a more Westernised art style, but the game itself is debatable on that.

A lot of people can't tell the difference these days either. There are a lot of people who actually think Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil are American games. I've talked to people that only think Japanese games are anime like or RPG's. It's ridiculous.




America didn't take over anything, last generation Nintendo absolutely obliterated the competition and this generation japanese games are also winning thus far.



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Shadow1980 said:

FWIW, last time the U.S. utterly controlled the console market, we had the Crash of '83. Meanwhile, a Japanese company was entirely responsible for resurrecting the console market after it crashed. And currently two of the three major console makers are Japanese companies.

That being said, I think Western developers (yes, I'm adding Europe to the equation as well as it's more accurate than saying just "the U.S.") have done better for themselves in the 3D era of gaming. In the 8-bit and 16-bit eras, Japanese developers and publishers dominated. Nintendo, Sega, NEC, Hudson, Capcom, Konami, Square, and Enix were among the biggest video game companies, while the West had been rendered largely irrelevant in the console market by the Crash of '83 and didn't experience a resurgence until the latter half of the 90s.

But think of the kind of games that were popular in the latter half of the 80s and the first half of the 90s. Platformers, shmups, fighting games & beat-'em-ups, JRPGs, and racing games. When gaming switched to 3D, some of those genres did not survive the switch fully intact. Platformers were once the most popular genre of games there was, but they rapidly lost their dominant status after the switch to 3D, with Mario being the only brand to remain truly relevant. The classic-style shoot-'em-up became extremely niche and largely exists today in the form of "bullet hell" shooters. Fighting games had a lot of stumbles in the switch to 3D (see MK4), but largely survived; it's own oversaturation reduced the number of franchises and the overall relevance of the genre, though, but the genre is still dominated by Japanese developers (Mortal Kombat remaining the biggest Western-developed fighting game series). Beat-'em-ups have become largely supplanted by hack-and-slash, with the the biggest series (God of War) being made by an American company, though you still have Japanese devs in the mix (see DMC, Bayonetta). Racing games have been trying to fake 3D forever, so the switch didn't really hurt them, and the genre remains a healthy mix of Japanese (Gran Turismo, Mario Kart) and Western (Forza, NFS) series. The JRPG is still relevant and, since gameplay usually took a back seat to story, the switch to 3D didn't hurt them much; however, the Western RPG, exemplified by The Elder Scrolls series, has made tremendous inroads, with Skyrim beating FFXIII as the biggest RPG of the seventh generation.

Meanwhile, look at what's popular today. The platformer, once the most dominant genre in gaming, has been supplanted by first-person and third-person shooters/action games and open-world games. Call of Duty, Halo, Uncharted, Gears of War, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed, Killzone, Tomb Raider, Red Dead, Batman: Arkham, and especially Grand Theft Auto have been extraordinary successful titles, and almost without exception these kinds of games are made by Western developers. It's likely a big reason for Western game development's resurgence. While Western devs did have some output in the 8-bit & 16-bit eras, it wasn't until gaming switched to 3D that the West began to reassert itself. Meanwhile, as many of the genres that Japanese devs specialized in during the 80s & early 90s began to wane in importance (either because they didn't transition well to 3D or because they simply became less popular), many formerly great Japanese companies have diminished greatly. While Nintendo continues to remain relevant, Sega is far from being the titan it once was, Capcom is dependent on fewer IPs than ever, and Konami is a twisted, moribund shell of its former self, Square-Enix's output has slowed over the past decade, and Sony's first-party development is mostly by Western studios. Other Japanese devs have remained relevant only within certain niches. Only a few third-party Japanese games managed to sell over 5 million copies last generation.

But was this shift good for gaming? I don't know. It does seem that the Japanese part of the industry had a hard time adapting to 3D, with many classic franchises not translating well to that then-new polygon-based world. Mega Man, Sonic, and Castlevania just really didn't work as well in 3D. With its focus on newer genres built with 3D in mind, it seems that the West was more well-equipped to deal with these new realities in game development. There were always exceptions to the rule (see MGS, Resident Evil, and anything Nintendo made), but it does seem that the West was in the right position to reassert its place in the global gaming market. Had the West shied away from the video games market, with only a handful making big games, it's possible that when gaming shifted to 3D that many Japanese studios would falter as they struggled to make compelling games that made good use of the third dimension. Then again, maybe not, and in a world where Western developers never had a resurgence it's just as possible that, without genres like the FPS to compete with, some other type of game would become dominant, with Japanese developers gradually perfecting 3D gameplay. Even Western developers often made poor use of 3D in the fifth and even sixth generations, with dreadful controls and bad cameras being prolific, and it took them a couple of generations to fully adapt. But like with any other "what if?" scenario, there's just no way of knowing if the shift away from Japan and back to the West was a net gain for the industry.

But at the end of the day, both Japan and the West still make many great games. Japan still makes many great, quirky niche titles, plus Nintendo is still just as capable as ever at making some of the most compelling and accessible gameplay experiences around, and maybe with indie gaming being a thing more Japanese devs can offer more of those old-school experiences that made millions of Gen X-ers fall in love with gaming back in the 80s & early 90s.

Bravo!

Just wanted to say that was a joy to read.



The American gaming crash of 83 is not relevant to those outside of the US. Just saying.



Never said:
I don't think it matters where the game came from as long as it's good.


Gotta upvote this aswell.

 

Be it american, japanese, european, korean, chinese, etc. I don't care. If the US manages to keep producing quality content all the better.

But, with that said... i do think that Canada has alot of the high profile development teams. So i'm not sure its all this 'murica thing. Japanese developers are catching up aswell, so it's all around good.



StokedUp said:
America taking over?? Are you blind or something? That's far from the reality.
The best selling hardware and software this year are these.
PlayStation 4- Japanese
The witcher 3- European
Metal gear solid- Japanese
Grand theft auto 5- European
Super smash bros- Japanese

And soon it will be:

Halo 5 - American

CoD - American

Fallout 4 - American

Yes, America dominates this industry, whether you like it or not. Rockstar is American btw, it's based in New York City...



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