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Intrinsic on 29 October 2015
Nintyfan90 said:
ethomaz said:

Numbers disagree with you.

Which numbers disagree? 7th Gen is outpacing 8th Gen. I'm sure you have an excuse for that. Which 3rd party franchises have done better this Gen?

ps4 gen sony is doing better than ps3

xb1 better than 360

only person doing worse now is you know........

what are you so bitter about



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Sprash on 29 October 2015
Intrinsic said:
Nintyfan90 said:
ethomaz said:

Numbers disagree with you.

Which numbers disagree? 7th Gen is outpacing 8th Gen. I'm sure you have an excuse for that. Which 3rd party franchises have done better this Gen?

ps4 gen sony is doing better than ps3

xb1 better than 360

only person doing worse now is you know........

what are you so bitter about

correction: ps4 is doing as good as ps3 + xbox360



 

 

johnsobas on 29 October 2015
Hiku said:
Nintyfan90 said:
Hiku said:
Nintyfan90 said:

PS2 was out in Japan first for like 9 months. Launch aligned they are probably tied which means ps4 slowed down considering it launched bigger than both Wii and PS2.

These are launch alligned figures, meaning the same amount of months from the first available release date for each console. Which is the only accurate way to measure. Otherwise you'd be disregarding some sales. That one console was available in one region before another is not an issue here, unless there was still a stock shortage of PS2's after nearly 2 years, because everyone who wants the console will have picked one up at that point.
If someone who wants a PS2 was still holding out on getting one 2 years after it's initial release, then it's not because it launched in Japan 8 months earlier.

If we were talking 1 year after release, then that's a different story. But now it's nearly two years, and I don't recall PS2 having stock problems that long into its release.

Those are shipments not launch aligned figures. The PS4 has more quarters of global figures than PS2.

These are launch alligned figures for shipments for each console after being out on the market for 8 quarters.
Launch alligned doesn't mean sold through figures. It's just a way to measure a statistic. In this case, the number of shipped units. It can also measure sold through, rented, sold back to BestBuy, or anything you want. It simply means that the calculation is based on the same amount of time tranpiring from the first day the consoles released anywhere.
After being out on the market for 8 quarters, PS4 has shipped 29.30m. After being out on the market for 8 quarters, PS2 had shipped 24.99m.

You know there is a difference between being out in 1 country for 9 months then releasing most of them later and being in most of them from the start then releasing in a few countries later.  It doesn't take a genius to see there is a big difference.  Yes the PS4 wasn't released in Japan until like 6 months later but it's not selling that well there and the numbers are small in the big picture.



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Nintyfan90 on 29 October 2015
Intrinsic said:
Nintyfan90 said:
ethomaz said:

Numbers disagree with you.

Which numbers disagree? 7th Gen is outpacing 8th Gen. I'm sure you have an excuse for that. Which 3rd party franchises have done better this Gen?

ps4 gen sony is doing better than ps3

xb1 better than 360

only person doing worse now is you know........

what are you so bitter about

I'll repeat what I said earlier, I wish some people would just grow up. Sony sold 80M psps...



Nintyfan90 on 29 October 2015
ethomaz said:
Nintyfan90 said:

Which numbers disagree? 7th Gen is outpacing 8th Gen. I'm sure you have an excuse for that. Which 3rd party franchises have done better this Gen?

Most of them did better than the first interaction in the 7th gen lol

Wait the userbase grow to level above last gen and you will see games selling way more.

It is already starting on PS4.

GTA, CoD, GT, etc will all sell more on PS4 than what they sold on PS3.

No need to argue with you. You are clearly only concerned with ps3 vs ps4 which doesn't prove at all the market isn't shrinking. Vita says hello everytime you try to ignore it. PS3/PSP > PS4/Vita at the end of the day.



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small44 on 29 October 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Alkibiádēs said:
Rab said:
Unless I'm reading this wrong

Sony Games Division: (2015)
Sales: $649 million
Operating Income: $43 million

Nintendo: (2015)
Sales: $946 million
Operating Income: $65 million

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2015/151028e.pdf


Sony is really doing something wrong if the PS4 + Vita doesn't profit as much as the Wii U + 3DS.

He read it wrong. Already been pointed out earlier. He took the billions of yen figures and thought they were millions of dollars.

Actual Sony figures (courtesy of Zekkyou)

Q1 + Q2 2015:
Sales: $5.4~ billion
Operating Income: $360~ million

i guess amiibo is making a lot of money for Nintendo



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

LipeJJ on 29 October 2015

Wow, PS4 is higher than we thought! Impressive figures.

But... am I the only one that thinks it's strange seeing Nintendo operating income being bigger than Sony's gaming division? O.o I mean, the PS4 is probably selling more than the Wii U + 3DS combined.



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

Lawlight on 29 October 2015
LipeJJ said:
Wow, PS4 is higher than we thought! Impressive figures.

But... am I the only one that thinks it's strange seeing Nintendo operating income being bigger than Sony's gaming division? O.o I mean, the PS4 is probably selling more than the Wii U + 3DS combined.


What numbers are you looking at?



Lawlight on 29 October 2015

Just for the record:

Operating income:

Nintendo: $74M
Sony's games division: $199M



LipeJJ on 29 October 2015
Lawlight said:
Just for the record:

Operating income:

Nintendo: $74M
Sony's games division: $199M


Haha! You're right, my bad. I was looking at Nintendo figures in BRL, which value is 4x less than dollar. Now it makes sense! :P



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won