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Pavolink said:

I don't. It's another waste of time. They could have done a better job with the franchise.

And with Hyrule Warriors Aonuma took an important role, even to the point of hinting new mechanics for Zelda U thanks to his involvement in the game. And let's not forget The Wind Waker HD.


I don't think so at all. It fits in perfectly with the Prime series, which always had a weird spin-off perspective on the franchise anyway. The gameplay looks great. It's just the art style that sucks.

He did take an important role, but he's one man, and just the producer. The entire Zelda team is working on Zelda U, including the director, who isn't Aonuma. He's just an overseer. Him working on HW had absolutely no negative effect on the developement of Zelda U. WWHD even less so, since they specifically used that game to learn HD developement through experience. The game would probably be out later without it, not sooner.



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Anyone that makes a prediction followed by the words " and you ". I find it extremely annoying.



spemanig said:


I'm not.

1. No, he doesn't. Excellent is a qualitative word. It can't be objective at all. There's no objective measure of excellence. Nothing can be objectively "excellent," which means that a statement like "Bloodborne was their only excellent game this year" obviously a subjective opinion. After that, the only thing that would need clarification is of whom the opinion belongs to. Since he's the one saying it, that much is obvious. Of course that's what he thinks. He's the one saying it. The only reason he'd need to clarify the holder of the opinion is if he was talking about someone elses opinion, which he wasn't. No clarification needed. Just basic english and reading comprehension.

When you write, the argumentative stance is assumed. "I think" is an implicit preface to all you say. The reader already knows that you offer him/her your convictions with the assurance of certainty. When you see newspaper editorials, they don't say "In our opinion, Donald Trump doesn't have a chance of being elected for President," they just say "Donald Trump doesn't have a chance of being elected for President." The only reason for any confusion is solely on behalf of the reader, who didn't approach the work with the approapriate foreknowledge of the way and rules by which English is read.

2. Not the topic of this debate at all. Why are you getting wound up?

3. "Metacritic is one of a few places that subjective reviews can be looked at objectively."

Absolutely not. Being placed on a numerical averaging tool does not suddenly make "Bloodborne was their only excellent game this year" an objective statement at all. Excellence doesn't suddenly become objective when it's organized. Opinions don't become fact just because you add them up and divide them by five. It's still a bunch of opinions. Bloodborne could have a 0 on Metacritic, and it would hold absolutely no effect on the validity of that statement. The PS4 could have 20 games with a higher Metascore than Bloodborne gaving been released in 2015, and it would hold absolutely no effect on the validity of his statement.

"Bloodborne was their only excellent game this year" is opinion. It was obvious that it's an opinion the first time reading, and it was obvious who's opinion it was the first time reading. It wasn't and couldn't possible have been "stated as a fact," and it needed absolutely no further clarification, what-so-ever.


So it's not a fact that on Metacritic the only new game for 2015 above 90 is Bloodborne? It not a fact that scores considered "excellent" are above 90.

And yes Metacritic can be used objectively.



spemanig said:
Nintyfan90 said:

We don't...? Oh yeah patents lol. Like these major corporations don't know there public.


The patents only reveal like 1% of what we know about the NX.

What do we know?



spemanig said:
Pavolink said:

I don't. It's another waste of time. They could have done a better job with the franchise.

And with Hyrule Warriors Aonuma took an important role, even to the point of hinting new mechanics for Zelda U thanks to his involvement in the game. And let's not forget The Wind Waker HD.


I don't think so at all. It fits in perfectly with the Prime series, which always had a weird spin-off perspective on the franchise anyway. The gameplay looks great. It's just the art style that sucks.

He did take an important role, but he's one man, and just the producer. The entire Zelda team is working on Zelda U, including the director, who isn't Aonuma. He's just an overseer. Him working on HW had absolutely no negative effect on the developement of Zelda U. WWHD even less so, since they specifically used that game to learn HD developement through experience. The game would probably be out later without it, not sooner.

It has. I'll tell you a story: Twilight Princess was being developed by a young team. Meanwhile, Aonuma was busy with other game called Phatom Hourglass (The Wind Waker 2, basically). The young team was doing something different from what we got. When he left PH team as everything was going according to his wild, he went to the TP team and it got a heart attack.

Aonuma believe that what they was developing was not a "Zelda" traditional game, thus, he had to rework a lot of it. What parts? I don't know.



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Pavolink said:
spemanig said:
Pavolink said:

I don't. It's another waste of time. They could have done a better job with the franchise.

And with Hyrule Warriors Aonuma took an important role, even to the point of hinting new mechanics for Zelda U thanks to his involvement in the game. And let's not forget The Wind Waker HD.


I don't think so at all. It fits in perfectly with the Prime series, which always had a weird spin-off perspective on the franchise anyway. The gameplay looks great. It's just the art style that sucks.

He did take an important role, but he's one man, and just the producer. The entire Zelda team is working on Zelda U, including the director, who isn't Aonuma. He's just an overseer. Him working on HW had absolutely no negative effect on the developement of Zelda U. WWHD even less so, since they specifically used that game to learn HD developement through experience. The game would probably be out later without it, not sooner.

It has. I'll tell you a story: Twilight Princess was being developed by a young team. Meanwhile, Aonuma was busy with other game called Phatom Hourglass (The Wind Waker 2, basically). The young team was doing something different from what we got. When he left PH team as everything was going according to his wild, he went to the TP team and it got a heart attack.

Aonuma believe that what they was developing was not a "Zelda" traditional game, thus, he had to rework a lot of it. What parts? I don't know.

Where did you here that?



I just thought of another one. "Amiibo is overpriced dlc, $8 costumes? Get real Shitendo!"
I love how those people not only ignore Amiibo are physical figurines but also how its made to work across dozens of titles and more in the future.



Nintyfan90 said:
spemanig said:


The patents only reveal like 1% of what we know about the NX.

What do we know?


I believe he is referring to the many Iwaya quotes of the last 2 years along with some Miyamoto quotes.



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zorg1000 said:

I believe he is referring to the many Iwaya quotes of the last 2 years along with some Miyamoto quotes.


That's exactly what I'm talking about. Not just those two. Almost every major figure at Nintendo, as well as some by DeNA. I'm not going to derail every thread with NX quotes.



Pavolink said:

It has. I'll tell you a story: Twilight Princess was being developed by a young team. Meanwhile, Aonuma was busy with other game called Phatom Hourglass (The Wind Waker 2, basically). The young team was doing something different from what we got. When he left PH team as everything was going according to his wild, he went to the TP team and it got a heart attack.

Aonuma believe that what they was developing was not a "Zelda" traditional game, thus, he had to rework a lot of it. What parts? I don't know.


Sorry, but I need a source before I believe that. I've researched a ton about the developement of TP, and that directly clashes with what I've read.