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Town Commuter, Hal Emmerich (outlawauron) wasn't the bravest of men, you have to wonder where he found the courage to be out at night, maybe it was a burning desire to solve the recent murders. Sadly, he would never get to discover who was behind those attacks as he himself became of the victims of this violent streak. His body was found in the morning, charred like the two before him.

Town Cop, Solid Snake (Mike321), was also found dead. If only he had worn his bandana or his stealth camo maybe the outcome would have been different but this legendary fighter was no more.

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outlawauron and Mike321 are dead

DAY FOUR STARTS!



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OK so here's the thing.
I've thought about this long and hard.
Because the only real way for town to win at this point is to lynch mafia.
But here's the thing. We don't know what zero is. He could be town or mafia or the sk.

The result I got last night was "you saw nothing"
However, previously when I watched mike, I got "you didn't see anyone"
Now, I don't know if that's just trucks being trucks, but it's possible that zero deflected my watch.

It's a really tough call, because so far, zero said that his power deflects bullets, not actions. And this could be an opportunity for him to simply change his "role" again and say it actually works on actions too.

Additionally, zero is banned. So it's also possible that he was banned previous to actually being able to s3nd trucks a message. Now, if he is the sk, he could still send an action to trucks via quicktopic.

However, I am leaning toward lynching zero for a few key reasons.
Im still not sure I believe the way he roleclaimed. I still think it's an impossible role, especially with the ability to bodyguard himself.
Him not targeting himself last night.
And his general craziness and mislogic

I would like to hear from others.



I'm going to also vote for a timelimit, because unless Xander posts we won't be able to lynch anyone unless we hit the time limit or platina actually shows up.

vote: timelimit

A time limit will impose a 48 hour limit, which should give zero sufficient time to talk.



theprof00 said:
I'm going to also vote for a timelimit, because unless Xander posts we won't be able to lynch anyone unless we hit the time limit or platina actually shows up.

vote: timelimit

A time limit will impose a 48 hour limit, which should give zero sufficient time to talk.

There's already a 5 day time limit on Days and it won't change.



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I'm just going to retort and then I'm going to lay down my proposal to you zero.

1. I though long and hard about this because my info surely is your lynchpin. Ie, you would pretty much be instantly lynched for not following the plan.
However, the only way for town to win is to take out mafia here. And if you are the sk, then that will be against my win condition to lynch you.
2. I don't know what to tell you. Meta gaming the setup is not evidence. Concern over how many investigatory roles (2) comes off as complaining about how hard you had it.

3. Yours is the only role so far that is weird. If you are so against 2 investigatory roles, for what merit do you justify two protective roles?
4. Your theory about Mike and Xander doesn't make any sense actually. I knew Mike was the cop, and left him alive, with no roleblocker... I watched Mike because he was the most confirmed player we had and therefore a prime candidate for nightkill. Our protector (you) instead decided to protect himself instead of the most important town that night, and doctor was also nowhere to be seen. So kudos to you for not protecting anyone this game. And yes, that is another strike against your role, because a protector should be protecting the most important players. Instead, you protected yourself, a player who through the majority of that day, was going after what we now know as a town cop. Secondly I don't see the roles of people I watch. I see who targets them.

5. You protected xander?? For the love of god, he is a lynch candidate! And Mike is STILL fucking out there in the cold. I would have told the truth if you protected yourself, I even went so far as to say you MIGHT have protected yourself and blocked my ability. Yet here you're saying I would've lied even if you did. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and you still try and discredit me. We had a plan, an agreement, and you risked that to protect a player like xander?!? Remember, I'm the one who thinks xander is your teammate, and I've written in a post, which I can quote for you again, that in my experience an sk duo can sometimes protect but never the same target twice in a row, and that your buddy may be protected instead, and now you come to me and tell me that instead of sticking to the arrangement, you decided to play a fa st one and protect a player whom everyone suspects, instead of targeting really the most valuable player we had, mike. If you weren't going to hold to the arrangement, you should've said something so I wouldn't have wasted my power watching you and might have actually found a killer last night.
6. Again, meta gaming the setup is not evidence. Like you said, we have no idea what the mafia roles are. It is very common for mafia to have a bulletproof, and also kills that go through protection , and sometimes a stealth kill that can't be seen. Last game I played as mafia we had one of each of those things. There is oftentimes also a godfather who can't be scanned by a cop. Sk usually has all of these things put together. I don't think the games been unfair at all because even with all these supposed town roles, we have not been able to stop anything or find any mafia other than one who broke down when a gentle breeze came his way.
7. It's sad that your two most trusted Townes are Mikes top suspects.

Anyway, here's my proposal.
If you are the sk, it is not in towns interest to lynch you. We need you alive to hopefully kill the mafia. So, with that being said, I need to know if you are the sk or not. If you are, I will leave you alone and look at someone else. But you need to tell me right now if you are the sk or not.



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You doubt also that the doc exists? Ok. Maybe I'm lying about the doc, maybe I'm not. Doesn't mean I'm scum though.



Are you the serial killer,zero?
If you are, I'll leave you alone.



You're a liar zero.
And now that I know you're not the SK, I feel comfortable voting for you, because I know you're scum.
I told you that if you targeted yourself, I would know your role.
You chose not to target yourself despite the fact that it would have cleared you (as a a townie), and given town good position on the lynch today because you'd be out of the suspect pool.
I believe you chose not to target yourself because you aren't actually a town bodyguard, and my results would have shown that.

vote: zero



One question for axum.
Axum, are you the town time limiter?



4. Saying that you got no return on scanning me but then slipped up and said how i didnt protect myself.

Can you explain this a bit more to me? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.