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Rock_on_2008 said:

Lets see both Nintendo Wii and the PS2 share quite a few things in common.

1. The PS2 was last generation's shovelware machine it had a lot of good games on it but there was also a lot of crap games on that system. The Nintendo Wii is the shovelware console of this generation and has a lot of good games already but it has had a lot of crap games.

2. The PS2 sold over 120 million consoles in its life time so far in 7 years. The Nintendo Wii is expected to reach 120 million years in 5 to 6 years time.

3. PS2 was the market leading console of its generation smashing its competition in sales and appealing to all gamers both hardcore (minority) and the casuals (majority). The Nintendo Wii is the market leader of the current generation and its smashing its rivals, Wii is popular with all gamers both casuals and hardcore.

4. Both PS2 and Nintendo Wii have the inferior consoles of their generation in regards to graphics , memory and storage capacity, where its rivals had superior consoles.

5. Both Nintendo Wii and PS2 are the cheapest consoles of their generation.

 


 It was already mentioned that PS2 wasn't the cheapest. But doesn't it still cost $130?



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Parokki said:
Rock_on_2008 said:
I bet a lot of people who owned a PS2 from last generation will get on board the Nintendo Wii band wagon.

Best typo I've seen all day. =P

The reason the Wii is seeing less third party support is that virtually everyone expected the PS2 to be a smash hit back when it was released, but very few people had the foresight to realise the Wii was going to be thing round's winner. I expect the Wii's slice of third party support to resemble that of the PS2 at the same point of its life in another year or so.

 I might be missing something but bandwagon isn't a typo. The dictionary definition is "a party, cause, movement, etc., that by its mass appeal or strength readily attracts many followers: After it became apparent that the incumbent would win, everyone decided to jump on the bandwagon." What did you think he meant?

 



tastyshovelware said:
vanguardian1 said:
The Wii itself isn't geared towards casuals. It was designed to appeal to more than the traditional gaming audience, big difference. The problem is that most all of 3rd party efforts are casual or youth based. Nintendo has increased it's library of casual friendly games, but NOT DECREASED it's traditional games development.

I think the biggest problem with the "hardcore" is that the definition of "hardcore" has changed significantly over the years, and Nintendo's IP's have not, and they have not really had many sucesses with the newer "hardcore" audience in their attempts (I would label Metroid Prime trilogy as a successful "hardcore" appeal personally, but not so much several other titles like Geist or Eternal Darkness, despite that some people really do think highly of the titles).

wii's marketing is geared towards (mainly) non gamers. that's why wii sports got tons of promotion and prime 3 got next to non.


PARTIALLY correct.  Their advertising is focused on the mass market, most of their games are not.

 

I gotta admit though, I am VERY CURIOUS as to what a "Wii would like to play" commercial would look like with Diaster : Day of Crisis. 



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tastyshovelware said:

#1: ps2 really wasn't as much of a shovelware console until 2006 (when the ps3 hit shelves). there were some games, yes, but not nearly as many as people make it out to be. (note: there were plenty of sub-par games on the ps2. but there is a difference between a sub-par game coming from a notable developer, ie: 'devil may cry 2', and 'ninja bread man.')

ps2 by 2002

1.x 0
2.x 13
3.x 13
4.x 34
5.x 39
total: 99


wii so far

1.x 11
2.x 11
3.x 15
4.x 20
5.x 33
total: 90

 

pretty similiar so far in terms of quantity of shovelware

wii includes ninjabread man, m&m racing, jenga, etc

ps2 includes antz extreme racing, shrek super party, monster jam, powerpuff girls, etc

  



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp

Ps2 and Wii have another thing in common, were the first console of their generation to be Hacked and modded...



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Wow being hacked and modded is a good thing because that means that person will get more games. So lets all buy a Wii and PS2 and pick up copied games.