really? I dint address any of your other points cuz we are in a thread that specifically destroys them on its own and I have no need to chip it, but here we go.

Halo bundle and game have been available for preorder for months now and has not even cracked the top 50 over thouse months unlike the destiny bundle and starwars bundle and now the black ops bundle, wich since anounced have always been on the top....well most of the time.

FO4 and tomb raider have also been available for preorder and nothing has given even the indication of things going in an upset in MS's favor. Although yea theese bundles have been available for very little time, they at least are very close to release and they are yet to come close to the top 100. In fact, the preorders are so bad that with in a week they had to add NBA2K16 and still nothing.

Yes, MS won last holiday, but the 360 also won last gen in the US and look at MS now. Last year MS had nsane fire sales acroos the country, w their offerings are an embarasment in comparison. While on the other side, the ps4 holiday bundle was very limited and not that big of a deal and now they have many diferent bundles, almost all the third party deals, a pricecut of their own and all the momemtum. So if you are looking to compare things to last year, then sony are doing much better.

Why should I not count on NPD? They are the sole trackers of consoles in the US, they are the most official thing available and if they say sony has dominated then you take it s fact and use it to see how thhings might turn out.

Dont think I need to adress the points in sonys favor that you mentioned.

Again, not saying its all over for MS or that sony has this on the bag, just saying that if all things stay the same sony is bound to dominate by a lot the entire holiday. They might both do some things to sway people, but our assumptions mean nothing, just what we have now matters and it tells us that there is no battle. When MS makes a worthwhile anouncement then we can come back to this issue and say "now things are heating up".

I get that, but then it seems thhat if they do anything, it wont affect october, it will all buble up for black friday on november, even halo sales. But by then, sony  will most likely have something up their sleeves as well. 

I think some of that steam also comes from the ps4 being out of stock everywhere after the promos yeaterday, consumers just saw first a free MGSV game with the destiny console, witch I bought :p, then a $50 gift card, then the 1 year of ps+ wich is basicly another $50 giift card, and now nothing in most places, I think peple are waiting for either an official pricecut, or more adds to the eisting bundles to come back.

And you cant just say that sony has been narrowly beating the x1, considering MS has offered some insane deals over the year and sony has done nothing at all and still been victorious. That august victory says it all with the x1 plus a tv for $500.

Im not acusing you of anything, Ive followed your threads I know where you stand, but It just botheres me a little that people are putting so much faith in halo and ignoring everithing else and also saying last year this so this year also. 

It bothers me when people shut down opinions without really putting a decent argument across but you have proven that you do actually know what you're talking about and not some blind idiot. As it stands right now, October looks like it's in the bag for Sony but I'm still wary of what Halo could do at the end of the month and for the rest of the holiday.

We are all blind to what will happen on BF and that is always the key to winning the holiday. Will we see $300 X1s with gift vouchers free XBL etc. Will Sony drop the price. Will the Halo LE bundle drop to $400??? This is why I said it will be an intriguing battle this holiday to begin with. MS might have to do more to win the holiday but history shows us that they always are the most aggressive on BF.

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