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Its too late, 3ds is basically uncontested at this point, yet its sales don't reflect it at all.
The days have been numbered for a long time with mobiles popularity increasing exponentially, as mobile tech impoves and more power is available for games, dedicated handhelds are only going to become even more irrelevant.



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gooch_destroyer said:

R.I.P Playstation handhelds.

 

nice SIG. ;)



kumagawa said:
ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
the reason the vita was not a success like sony wanted, is because sony themselves killed the system with poor 1st support and overpriced memory cards and system. Also poor ads and deals to get ppl to buy the system, all the issues with the vita remain soley on the shoulders of sony, its just that simple.
I myself love the vita , I own the system with over 75 games, but using the excuse they keep using for the poor received vita is the mobile market is severly flawed at its core and they know that themselves.
the Nintendo 3ds has sold over 55 million systems and when its done will come close to 70 million I wager, yes its a big gap from the Nintendo ds but its still a very healthy market with the so called mobile market that sony is blaming the fate of the vita on.


The combined DS and PSP generation was 230 million the 3DS and Vita will be lucky to hit 80 million.

So the handheld market has suffered a huge contraction and while Nintendo can leverage 26 years in the handheld market Sony can't.

Expecting any new handhelds from either is foolish smartphones are simply becoming to powerful for dedicated handhelds to make sense.  


Nintendo would be foolish but they would still push for a handheld console in a year or two.  ;)



Ruler said:
the vita failed because its not a phone. bring out a vita phone everyone would buy it

i don't agree that it would sell well, Xperia tried but failed.  i don't think a vita phone with sticks and dedicated buttons would be good in a phone and the form factor, etc.  the crowd in mobile gaming is content with touch based games.  and they don't need sticks and buttons to play games.  how would you compare the pricing of a vita game against a mobile game.

what do you want merge it into one?



gabzjmm23 said:
gooch_destroyer said:

R.I.P Playstation handhelds.

 

 

nice SIG. ;)


Thanks!

Had to find one that was SFW. lol



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gooch_destroyer said:
gabzjmm23 said:

nice SIG. ;)


Thanks!

Had to find one that was SFW. lol


can't wait for the 2nd season. XD



gabzjmm23 said:
gooch_destroyer said:


Thanks!

Had to find one that was SFW. lol


can't wait for the 2nd season. XD


Me either!



Regarding the future of dedicated Handheld devices. Everything looks bad tbh.

Sony will do them a favor by not staying in this market.



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Its actually funny how identical PC and mobile are. They both have a high entry cost, PC(gaming) can easily be 1k, while smartphones can easily be 600$+, while they both have low cost games. However, most if not all mobiles are subsidized, many are given away for free with deals or on payment plans.

I think you still missed a point here. Everyone has to buy a mobile phone. I have a Vita, but I also have a phone. If I had to choose just one of them to keep, I would keep the phone, because it is more important. I can say the same about a PC and a console.

The difference is that while you must have a PC, you don't need a gaming PC. So most PCs aren't capable of console-level gaming, so you either buy a console to play or upgrade your PC (more expensive and demands techinical knowledge). Now, all mobile phones are completely able to game. Any mid-end device can play relatively complex 3D games.

So what we have is that any smartphone is a Vita/3DS grade gaming device. But 95% of the PCs aren't PS4/X1 grade gaming gaming devices.



@dernebel, yes mobile market took away from the handhelds because ppl like cheap crap games, simply . Either way, my whole point to our argument is that sony never got their best studios to make games for the system, which is a fact ( cant argue that if u wanted too ). And also didn't spend much money on marketing the system, which is vital to any success with a product your trying to sell and sony didn't try and secure the monster hunter series for the system and a few others, which hurt the system more than the mobile market to a extent I believe.
Lastly, you can ask true gamers why they didn't buy the vita and take a chance with it and the top 3 reasons will always be the same.
1. high price tag for the system
2. high price for their memory cards
3. the lack of games released for the system , at least in the states. which I am speaking from, anyways.

The only place where u could see a decent collection of games for the vita were either at a mom & pop gaming store , gamestop and amazon. The places like bestbuy, walmart, toy's r us, target and such stores would only carry the bare basic in games to choose from , which hurt the system as well.
I understand your points as well, I just believe that the system was never given a true chance at being a success, since I saw the potential that sony has not apparently seen.
Anyways it was nice talking to u , take care. :)



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