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TheWPCTraveler on 18 September 2015

I was thinking lately that Nintendo has to pull out a great 2016 and 2017 software-wise to reassure consumers that they can support a platform.

That said, apart from Japan, there's no way the Wii U can outsell 2014 unless Xenoblade X and Mario Tennis exceed expectations.



 
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midrange on 18 September 2015
Bofferbrauer said:
fatslob-:O said:

Fatal Frame 5 and Yoshi's Whooly World are big franchises ? Well that's news to me ... 

And you want me to count two extreme spin-offs ? 

You included Bayonetta 2, which is, like it's predecessor, an acclaimed flop saleswise. So if you include that game I can include other games which are small but can possibly even do more for Wii U sales than Bayonetta 2 did

Bayonetta 2 also had a dedicated fan base and got perfect scores, unlike fatal frame and yoshis wooly world



midrange on 18 September 2015
TheWPCTraveler said:
I was thinking lately that Nintendo has to pull out a great 2016 and 2017 software-wise to reassure consumers that they can support a platform.

That said, apart from Japan, there's no way the Wii U can outsell 2014 unless Xenoblade X and Mario Tennis exceed expectations.


At this point, I don't think they can. 2014 may be the wii u's best year



TheWPCTraveler on 18 September 2015
midrange said:
TheWPCTraveler said:
I was thinking lately that Nintendo has to pull out a great 2016 and 2017 software-wise to reassure consumers that they can support a platform.

That said, apart from Japan, there's no way the Wii U can outsell 2014 unless Xenoblade X and Mario Tennis exceed expectations.


At this point, I don't think they can. 2014 may be the wii u's best year


With Starfox Zero's delay, I'm seeing a bigger lineup that what I saw last year heading into 2015.

Illusory Revelations #FE (I call it that because it sounds cool), Pokken, and Starfox Zero are all supposed to have 1H2016 releases.

Zelda U, and Pikmin 4, while unconfirmed, may as well release in 2016.

These titles alone are enough to make it a bigger year than 2015 to me, though it may not to others.

There are some fairly big unknowns, too. Retro doesn't seem to be working on anything, so does Intelligent Systems.



 
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Slarvax on 18 September 2015

Hasn't it sold half of what it sold in 2013 in Japan so far? It also had the best and never beatable holidays in 2013 (again, Japan), what makes you think this will be a better year?



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Bofferbrauer on 18 September 2015
Slarvax said:
Hasn't it sold half of what it sold in 2013 in Japan so far? It also had the best and never beatable holidays in 2013 (again, Japan), what makes you think this will be a better year?

Well, concerning Japan Wii U sales,check out this thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=203794&page=1

Basically, it will become a pretty close run between 2013 and 2015 in Japan, 2014 is already beaten there and won't catch up anymore to the other 2 years.



RubberWhistleHistle on 18 September 2015
fatslob-:O said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

id like to look at actual numbers since percentages can be quite deceptive and dont tell you what you really need to know when discussing this topic. 

july 2014: 218k

july 2015: 152k 

difference of 70k

august 2014: 193k

august 2015: 150k

difference of 40k

total difference of 110k

that is a pretty big difference for two months that i called "close," i agree. but when you consider that in 2014, the wii u sold 1,174k in december, the difference of 110k for those months, and the differences in may+june could be easily undone if in 2015, wii u has a 1,500k december. which seems pretty feasible if they have better marketing this year. this is a very very attainable number.

The total difference for the whole year right now is 224K in favour of last year and it's not like the gap won't increase in the coming months ... 

Getting a 28% increase in sales at December compared to last year is easier said than done when this year's line up doesn't match yp to last year's ... 

In fact that type of gain is bordering on the lines of a wish rather than an optimistic prediction with a solid basis ... 

the wii u can beat last years september and october. it still can gain some ground. i really think that if nintendo advertises more in the states, then they can achieve that kind of goal. its really only up to them at this point. 



RubberWhistleHistle on 18 September 2015
generic-user-1 said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
fleischr said:


Last year, WiiU sales underperformed 2013 Q4 until after Smash came out.

Leading off with a big September is the differentiator. Compare 2015's big september release: Super Mario Maker to prior WiiU September releases (Wind Waker, Hyrule Warriors, Rayman Legends, TW101). It's pretty obvious SMM likely walks all over those guys in moving HW. It'll leg out beautifully.

Yoshi, Mario Tennis, and XCX should help sustain momentum through the rest of the holiday.

2014 is the big debate here to see which year will be the peak year. i think the wii u's 2015 lineup is weaker than the 2014 lineup, but if nintendo actually advertises, there is no reason that they cant sell more in september through december in 2015 than in 2014. seems like their advertising is better than it has been in the past two years, so this is pretty much what we are banking on.

well i would say backlog is a good buy argument, mk and smash will sale well again this holiday, nintendo games dont die after some months-

yeah, even though smash and mario kart came out last year, people can still buy the system because of those games this year. i completely agree.



Soundwave on 18 September 2015

2014 being the Wii U's best year wouldn't be anything terribly shocking.

The N64's best year was 1998 (its second year) with Banjo-Kazooie, 1080, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, F-Zero X, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, and Turok 2.

GameCube peaked early on too with 2002 being its best year with Eternal Darkness, Animal Crossing, Super Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, and Star Fox Adventures.



midrange on 18 September 2015
TheWPCTraveler said:
midrange said:


At this point, I don't think they can. 2014 may be the wii u's best year


With Starfox Zero's delay, I'm seeing a bigger lineup that what I saw last year heading into 2015.

Illusory Revelations #FE (I call it that because it sounds cool), Pokken, and Starfox Zero are all supposed to have 1H2016 releases.

Zelda U, and Pikmin 4, while unconfirmed, may as well release in 2016.

These titles alone are enough to make it a bigger year than 2015 to me, though it may not to others.

There are some fairly big unknowns, too. Retro doesn't seem to be working on anything, so does Intelligent Systems.


2015 is just bad. 2016 looks decent, but it looks to match 2013 instead of 2014. After all, you have your early rpg monster hunter tri/ SMT x FE, you have you Pikmin game pikmin 3/pikmin 4, you have a huge title super mario 3d world/ zelda u. 2015 also has pokken and starfox, but 2013 also had lego city, Rayman legends, wonderful 101, and other third party