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The_Sony_Girl1 on 10 September 2015
starman said:
HoloDust said:


Oh dear...yeah, we should definitely have one version of Spiderman that is straight, one that is bi, one that is gay, etc.

But let's not stop at that - we should have one version where he is black, than one version where he's Chinese, than one version where he is Eskimo.

Than expand onto version where he is polydactylous and to spice it up one where he has siamese twin.

 

What Stan Lee says, as someone who created Spiderman, is neither idiotic, homophobic or hypocritical. If you want bi/gay/pansexual character, go find one that is already created in certain way (like Captain Holt from Brooklyn Nine-Nine, one of the best characters in last few years in TV shows) , or create your own, do not ask for well established charactes to conform to your believes or you're coming out as close-minded.

okay, let's never make a new version of a superhero, just forget it and make a new hero everytime.

you're very close minded and comparing a sexuality change with siamese twins is hugely homophobic. I still wonder why people bithc so much over an invisible and natural difference.

Yes we shouldn't make a new version of a hero. Why? Because that would be changing what they are! It would go against years of character development! I mean like at what happened to Iceman! He's unpopular right now, because he became gay, despite being straight for 40 years!



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Abun on 10 September 2015
LurkerJ said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Completely agree with Stan Lee on this. Characters should stay who they are, try and change that and you are just ruining a character. If wou want characters with different sexualities or ethnicities or whatever just create new ones, don't ruin the ones that already exist.

Well, here is some food for thought. Most of the superhero characters went through changes and reboots and storylines that are drastically different from each other. After and way before they started making movies and TV shows out the comics. So why stop now? 

I don't see how expanding Spider-man's sexuality is a big deal. If anything, he is that kind of a guy. "Hey guys! I kissed a boy and I liked it!". It sounds like something spider-man would say.


Changes and reboots never changed his personality,sexuality or morals.Spiderman has had kids and a gay person can not do that and his powers were passed down,so adoption would not work as a storyline.This whole gay agenda does not help anything and causes more problems.Let Spiderman be what he has always been.That is what I and millions of people grew up loving and that is how it should be.As someone already said,make new characters if they want to force the gay agenda and I will leave that be.



Abun on 10 September 2015
The_Sony_Girl1 said:
starman said:
HoloDust said:


Oh dear...yeah, we should definitely have one version of Spiderman that is straight, one that is bi, one that is gay, etc.

But let's not stop at that - we should have one version where he is black, than one version where he's Chinese, than one version where he is Eskimo.

Than expand onto version where he is polydactylous and to spice it up one where he has siamese twin.

 

What Stan Lee says, as someone who created Spiderman, is neither idiotic, homophobic or hypocritical. If you want bi/gay/pansexual character, go find one that is already created in certain way (like Captain Holt from Brooklyn Nine-Nine, one of the best characters in last few years in TV shows) , or create your own, do not ask for well established charactes to conform to your believes or you're coming out as close-minded.

okay, let's never make a new version of a superhero, just forget it and make a new hero everytime.

you're very close minded and comparing a sexuality change with siamese twins is hugely homophobic. I still wonder why people bithc so much over an invisible and natural difference.

Yes we shouldn't make a new version of a hero. Why? Because that would be changing what they are! It would go against years of character development! I mean like at what happened to Iceman! He's unpopular right now, because he became gay, despite being straight for 40 years!


I was a fan of Iceman (was my favorite Xman) until I heard about this.There was not need to make Bobby gay out of the blue.It ruined the character and is obviously an agenda to force that lifestyle on people.



XanderXT on 10 September 2015
StarOcean said:
I personally think that Peter Parker should sexually identify as an attack helicopter. Why should he be pan if he can be helisexual?

Why do I feel like I shoud know that from somewhere...



XanderXT on 10 September 2015
LurkerJ said:

4.The human torch used to be a white guy. Now he is black. Why is this OK and pansexuality isn't? It's just sex in a popcorn flick, get over it.

You're joking, right? A lot of people hated the fact he suddenly turned black.



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The Fury on 10 September 2015
XanderXT said:
LurkerJ said:

4.The human torch used to be a white guy. Now he is black. Why is this OK and pansexuality isn't? It's just sex in a popcorn flick, get over it.

You're joking, right? A lot of people hated the fact he suddenly turned black.

More to do with him being black and his sister white. They even added 'So your adopted?' in the very very poor film just to explain it, they didn't need to. Both black, no adopted line and no issues... well except the racists that is. The idea of Sue and Johnny is a close family dynamic and that film lacked all types of dynamic anyway.



Hmm, pie.

ironmanDX on 10 September 2015
Faelco said:
Stan Lee said everything there is to say on the subject. Other comments like Garfield's are irrelevant IMO.


This. Comic book movies are only good imo because they atleast stay loosely to the source material. A change here and there why not but if someone has a story to be told, let them. 

 

Edit: ok, not all comic book movies are good or stick to source material.. But yeah. 



XanderXT on 10 September 2015
The Fury said:
XanderXT said:
LurkerJ said:

4.The human torch used to be a white guy. Now he is black. Why is this OK and pansexuality isn't? It's just sex in a popcorn flick, get over it.

You're joking, right? A lot of people hated the fact he suddenly turned black.

More to do with him being black and his sister white. They even added 'So your adopted?' in the very very poor film just to explain it, they didn't need to. Both black, no adopted line and no issues... well except the racists that is. The idea of Sue and Johnny is a close family dynamic and that film lacked all types of dynamic anyway.

Well you're right.



naruball on 10 September 2015
Abun said:
LurkerJ said:

Well, here is some food for thought. Most of the superhero characters went through changes and reboots and storylines that are drastically different from each other. After and way before they started making movies and TV shows out the comics. So why stop now? 

I don't see how expanding Spider-man's sexuality is a big deal. If anything, he is that kind of a guy. "Hey guys! I kissed a boy and I liked it!". It sounds like something spider-man would say.


Changes and reboots never changed his personality,sexuality or morals.Spiderman has had kids and a gay person can not do that and his powers were passed down,so adoption would not work as a storyline.This whole gay agenda does not help anything and causes more problems.Let Spiderman be what he has always been.That is what I and millions of people grew up loving and that is how it should be.As someone already said,make new characters if they want to force the gay agenda and I will leave that be.

The discussion is not about Spiderman suddenly becoming gay, but being revealed that he's bi/pansexual. He could have a gf and still like guys. Also, plenty of closeted gays have children with women (though again no one is saying he should be gay).

I agree with you about Iceman, though. It makes zero sense unless it's a parallel universe and, unfortunately, it's not.



AEGRO on 10 September 2015

I know Google is my friend, but what does "pansexual" means?