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Frogger on 22 August 2015
FunFan said:

You are looking at it from the point of view of the Wii and WiiU. But what about the DS and 3DS?


They have both. This has one. It says memery card slot. Not cartridge slot. Guess why.



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Frogger on 22 August 2015

Captain_Yuri said:

Edit: If you look at the patent as well... "First Basic Program" and "Second Basic Program" which are in the "Memory Card" and Not in the "External HDD" also goes into the console. So "First Basic Program" goes into Memory/Ram and "Second Basic Program" goes into the "Internal Hard Drive" which really suggests its a cartridge since the "First Basic Program" is most likely game files that gets loaded upinto Ram and "Second Basic Program" is most likely any installation files or save data that gets written into the internal hard drive.


We're going in circles here. I'll read more on the patent and give my thoughts then.

EDIT: It literally mentions it's for SD cards in the patent.



FunFan on 22 August 2015
spemanig said:
FunFan said:

You are looking at it from the point of view of the Wii and WiiU. But what about the DS and 3DS?


They have both. This has one. It says memery card slot. Not cartridge slot. Guess why.

Because Nintendo knew this patent would be dug and wanted to remain as vage as posible?



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Poliwrathlord on 22 August 2015

Maybe this is a digital only Wii U. A cheaper, smaller version. Probably not but hey, you don't know.



fatslob-:O on 22 August 2015

Wouldn't put a whole lot of stock on it ...

Aside from that this sounds like an all digital console and we all know how that went with a pre-release of the X1 ...



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Frogger on 22 August 2015
fatslob-:O said:
Wouldn't put a whole lot of stock on it ...

Aside from that this sounds like an all digital console and we all know how that went with a pre-release of the X1 ...


It went nowhere because that never existed. Pre-release XBO wasn't digital only.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 22 August 2015
spemanig said:
Captain_Yuri said:

It does have an external hard drive solution in the patent so it makes me wonder why do we even need an sd card anymore at all


The Wii U has an external hard drive solution. Likely just for the Wii/3DS games that'll be playable on the NX.

To answer your last question, though, we don't know. But you have to take a really hard look at what you're suggesting by thinking that Nintendo would put 3rd party developers through the same N64 garbage that made Square leave. You know, the Square that is planning on releasing DQX on the NX.

I don't think the patent shows anything other than a typical SD card slot. I don't think that Nintendo is going to suddenly think its a good idea to go back to cartridges, which are more expensive than disks, after over 15 years of using CDs on consoles. And I don't think that's an absurd thing to think. I think that it's far more likely that they're doing the obvious move of going all digital, like literally every other form of media has done. Books did it. Movies did it. Music did it. Gaming has already done it on PC. Nintendo is doing it now on consoles. I wasn't sure if Nintendo was ballsy enough to do it for consoles yet. I'm 100% sure they are now.

Yea but technology has progressed a lot since then... Flash memory has become heck of a lot cheaper and its faster than optical media... The 3ds cartridges can hold up to 8gb and the got released back in 2011 so now, they should be able to increase the space but a lot while keeping the costs down. And while 64gb microsd cards do still cost a bit to buy, they are also full re-writable where as cartridges mostly aren't apart from the save data which will also bring the costs down. So I doubt the storage size or the cost the make will be an issue.

And while I get where you are coming from, the patent suggests that it will have games in the memory card

"First Basic Program" and "Second Basic Program" which are in the "Memory Card" and Not in the "External HDD" also goes into the console. So "First Basic Program" goes into Memory/Ram and "Second Basic Program" goes into the "Internal Hard Drive" which really suggests its a cartridge since the "First Basic Program" is most likely game files that gets loaded up into Ram and "Second Basic Program" is most likely any installation files or save data that gets written into the internal hard drive. Why would "First Basic Program" go into memory if it wasn't?

Oh and I am aware it mentions "SD card" but its not like SD cards can't have games inside or can't be "read only" since they are flash memory which cartridges are...



                  

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Frogger on 22 August 2015
FunFan said:

Because Nintendo knew this patent would be dug and wanted to remain as vage as posible?


That's not how patents work.



fatslob-:O on 22 August 2015
spemanig said:

It went nowhere because that never existed. Pre-release XBO wasn't digital only.

Doesn't matter, you required an internet connection to be able to play on the platform and the same appears for this apparatus ...



Frogger on 22 August 2015
Captain_Yuri said:

Yea but technology has progressed a lot since then... Flash memory has become heck of a lot cheaper and its faster than optical media... The 3ds cartridges can hold up to 8gb and the got released back in 2011 so now, they should be able to increase the space but a lot while keeping the costs down. And while 64gb microsd cards do still cost a bit to buy, they are also full re-writable where as cartridges mostly aren't apart from the save data which will also bring the costs down. So I doubt the storage size or the cost the make will be an issue.

And while I get where you are coming from, the patent suggests that it will have games in the memory card

"First Basic Program" and "Second Basic Program" which are in the "Memory Card" and Not in the "External HDD" also goes into the console. So "First Basic Program" goes into Memory/Ram and "Second Basic Program" goes into the "Internal Hard Drive" which really suggests its a cartridge since the "First Basic Program" is most likely game files that gets loaded up into Ram and "Second Basic Program" is most likely any installation files or save data that gets written into the internal hard drive. Why would "First Basic Program" go into memory if it wasn't?

Oh and I am aware it mentions "SD card" but its not like SD cards can't have games inside or be "read only" since they are flash memory which cartridges are...


It's not remotely cheap enough to make a third party company say "we'll spend like $10+ on a cart for the NX version of a game that costed $0.10 for a CD on the PS4/XBO." The average next gen game is like 45GB. Those are the sizes you're looking at for something like this. There is no way Nintendo is convincing 3rd parties to pay that kind of money per game just to port their 8th gen games to the NX.

It sounds like it's just describing the standard functions of a memory card. You know, downloading something from the SD card to the system itself. If it was meant to read game data like a cartridge, the patent would have been far more explicite than that.