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Tachikoma said:
jlmurph2 said:

That's some wild generalization there from a mod. Kind of unsettling to say the least.

I didn't see many Xbox fans here saying that.

Simply making a valid observation, being or not being a mod has nothing to do with it.


I don't see how its valid. Looking through the first several pages the majority of the Kotaku criticism here is coming from PS + Nintendo fans while I've seen maybe 3 Xbox fans. Being a mod I would think you knew what generalizing a fanbase looked like.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Protendo said:


Having to wait 20 minutes while being bored is trivial now?


Idk where you got trivial from, but i said "most", and cut scenes can be skipped :)

Oh man I can already see the complaints once reviews hits

Reviewer watches all the 20 minute cutscenes and doesn't like them: "Uh duh you can just skip the cutscenes"

Reviewer decides to skip the 20 minute cutscenes and says the story doesn't make sense: "Duh you didn't even watch the cutscenes"

The reviewers will have to watch these scenes and so will you the first you play the game (unless you don't care for the story, which would be weird to say the least for a game like this), so the whole excuse that the scenes can be skipped doesn't mean that reviewers/previewers can't criticize them.



Negative clickbait article, who would have thought.



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The more I hear about it the more I'm looking forward to it. I've always seen potential in live action since I was a huge fan of Gabriel knight beast within for example and I love these interactive stories like life is strange and everything from telltale games. And now it's remedy doing it's magic combining this stuff with 3rd person shooter!



Never been excited for this, like most games in the past few years.
Perhaps we should wait and see what others are saying and make a decision based on a broader set of samples and opinions before we label this clickbait though?
It would be difficult if the consensus would agree with Kotaku on this one, we would have to accuse the majority of clickbaiting.
I don't care for Kotaku all that much but I don't see them as any worse than Edge, Eurogamer, IGN, Gamespot or most other either, the complaints are probably legitimate from a subjective point of view, and that's more or less a reviewers job when all is said and done.



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We've already seen more then 30mins of solid gameplay. The gunplay+time warping mechanic may not be revolutionary, but its also far more distinct then gunplay we're used to seeing in Third person shooters, also I don't see how its look dull. 

"it wasn’t exciting to watch. None of these powers are new. They look nice in Quantum Break, but they don’t feel original" 

Not the most damning of criticism and can probably be applied to most games, which aren't set piece driven



The TV stuff sounds bad, but the headline still seems like hyperbole. The game looks like it'll be a mixed bag but "rubbish"... I'd prefer publications reserve that kind of judgement for when they actually get their hands on the game.



jlmurph2 said:
Tachikoma said:

Simply making a valid observation, being or not being a mod has nothing to do with it.


I don't see how its valid. Looking through the first several pages the majority of the Kotaku criticism here is coming from PS + Nintendo fans while I've seen maybe 3 Xbox fans. Being a mod I would think you knew what generalizing a fanbase looked like.

I see if from a perspective of what people report and their reasoning for doing so too, and I see it beyond merely VGC, it's an observation with scope.
And some Nintendo/XB fans said "clickbait" and similar in the 1886 threads too, but only early on, as the game got closer and closer to release, and indeed, after it was released, that attitude shifted gears.

If you think my observation was a generalization that's fine, but we both know when the games actually released that "generalization" will be in full swing.



DerNebel said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Protendo said:


Having to wait 20 minutes while being bored is trivial now?


Idk where you got trivial from, but i said "most", and cut scenes can be skipped :)

Oh man I can already see the complaints once reviews hits

Reviewer watches all the 20 minute cutscenes and doesn't like them: "Uh duh you can just skip the cutscenes"

Reviewer decides to skip the 20 minute cutscenes and says the story doesn't make sense: "Duh you didn't even watch the cutscenes"

The reviewers will have to watch these scenes and so will you the first you play the game (unless you don't care for the story, which would be weird to say the least for a game like this), so the whole excuse that the scenes can be skipped doesn't mean that reviewers/previewers can't criticize them.

If the story sucks, then why can't the reviewer criticize the cut scenes?

I mean.. did I type that the game is immune to criticism and just forget? I don't think you or the guy I quoted really read my post.



DerNebel said:

LudicrousSpeed said:

 Idk where you got trivial from, but i said "most", and cut scenes can be skipped :)

Oh man I can already see the complaints once reviews hits

Reviewer watches all the 20 minute cutscenes and doesn't like them: "Uh duh you can just skip the cutscenes"

Reviewer decides to skip the 20 minute cutscenes and says the story doesn't make sense: "Duh you didn't even watch the cutscenes"

The reviewers will have to watch these scenes and so will you the first you play the game (unless you don't care for the story, which would be weird to say the least for a game like this), so the whole excuse that the scenes can be skipped doesn't mean that reviewers/previewers can't criticize them.

You would think that someone reviewing and playing through a game for the very first time wouldn't skip the cutscenes or complain that they couldn't skip the cutscenes.  Every reviewer knows that all of the story elements are embedded in these cutscenes and it would be biased to then give a low score... 

Oh wait, you replied to a guy who did just that on The Order 1886:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7102822

"The Order feeds you constant unskippable story elements"

Then proceeds to give the story a 4.0 and has "constant unskippable cut scenes" under "The Bad".  I thought the point of playing video games was to enjoy them and not to rush through them as fast as possible.  Perhaps some people have an agenda to prove that certain games are poor.

 



Jimbo1337 said:
I thought the point of playing video games was to enjoy them and not to rush through them as fast as possible.


Looks like someone hasn't played The Order: 1886.

Also, of course there was an agenda in that score. I mean, real reviewers just gushed over the game.