Zelhawks37 said:
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Well, they might not have as many interceptions at least ;)
Who will win Super Bowl 50? | |||
| Patriots | 116 | 25.00% | |
| Seahawks | 41 | 8.84% | |
| Colts | 7 | 1.51% | |
| Packers | 42 | 9.05% | |
| Broncos | 85 | 18.32% | |
| Ravens | 8 | 1.72% | |
| Cowboys | 18 | 3.88% | |
| Panthers | 56 | 12.07% | |
| Other | 74 | 15.95% | |
| Scoreboard | 17 | 3.66% | |
| Total: | 464 | ||
Zelhawks37 said:
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Well, they might not have as many interceptions at least ;)
ljigga said:
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Oh shit the Jets game already started...ffs London


RolStoppable said:
Last year would have had the Texans (9-7) and Eagles (10-6). In 2013 it would have been an 8-8 AFC team (there were four) and the Cardinals (10-6). In 2012 the Steelers (8-8) and the Bears (10-6). That's three years in a row where a 10-6 team got left out. All of them from the NFC, but it's just the reality of things that the AFC hasn't had many good teams in recent years. Might as well make the argument that only four AFC teams should be in the playoffs under such circumstances, because there aren't enough genuinely good squads to make it six. But it's going to be more interesting than what we currently get. If the number two seed gets punished with an additional playoff game, your point about making the group of six playoff teams can be used here. You said that teams that want to be in the playoffs just have to get a top 6 record, so why shouldn't a team that wants the bye week just get the best record in the conference.
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This is why reading posts is important, kids.
Firstly, I picked the scenario that is most likely to happen under a system where the teams with the six best records make the playoffs, as I am proposing.
This argument is going solely under the reasoning that we could have a Top 6 playoff system, as opposed to what we currently have. Had division winners not been allowed automatically into the playoffs, and it was merely done under a Top 6 system, the Eagles would have been in last year as a six seed.
The argument about the #2 seed still can be used, because it doesn't add anything. There's no reason to punish the #2 seed with a game against a mediocre opponent just so we can have one more playoff game and the playoffs can be more "exciting" by watching some team get stomped into the dirt.

The Dolphins don't get to play the AFC South, huh? Well, they might at least get one of the first draft picks!
| BAL-PIT | 1 | NYJ-MIA | 1 | JAC-IND | 2 | NYG-BUF | 2 |
| CAR-TB | 1 | PHI-WAS | 1 | OAK-CHI | 2 | HOU-ATL | 2 |
| KC-CIN | 2 | CLE-SD | 2 | GB-SF | 1 | STL-ARI | 2 |
| MIN-DEN | 2 | DAL-NO | 1 | BYE | DET-SEA | 1 by 28 |
made some changes
Dolphins biggest surprise of 2015?
I had them pegged for 8-11 win range. But they are much much less than the sum of their parts on the field.
Wonder what the odds the coaching staff is fired and left in London, lol.
| RolStoppable said: The Dolphins are terrible, but the Jets got bad after a good start, so the game isn't quite over yet. Fitzpatrick is also flirting with an interception because he threw already three or four passes that could have been picked. EDIT: The German broadcast seems to love the 49ers for some reason. Already planned to be shown in week 2 (but changed to NE@BUF), they had the 49ers last week against the Cardinals and will have them this week vs. the Packers. Oh well, I won't complain this time. EDIT2: One more thing about the Dolphins, this is a game that can be won with good coaching and adjustments for the second half, but I really don't think that the Miami staff is competent enough. We need Fitztragic! |
I think Hasselbeck will do great, but the Colts defense is just utter garbage. The change in my pick is mostly just because I overestimated the Colts a bit and the injury to Luck certainly doesn't help.
Estelle and Adol... best characters ever! XD


LudicrousSpeed said:
Only twice in the last 12 or 13 years has the #1 seed been decided by anything other than head to head. In that same period four times the #2 seed has been decided. By this logic you should be bothered even less by a 2nd seed team not earning a bye, since "so often" they only got that #2 seed based on conference win percentage.
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about if you're just going to blindly assume the 7th best team in each conference every year is "mediocre". And I assume you've never watched playoff football if you're also assuming the #2 seed will automatically "pound" them. You're not really arguing with logic here, just blanket statements that aren't based in reality.
Well Miami would not have made it in last season. Nor would the Bills, they'd have been the 4th ranked 9-7 team. But the Texans were ending the season on a roll and were playing good defense. It also would have given the Chiefs AND Chargers something to play for in week 17 instead of just the Chargers. In 2013 you would have had the 10-6 Cardinals in after winning 7 of their last 9, losing only two games by field goals, each to 10+ win playoff teams. These aren't 5 or 6 win teams being allowed in :)
Nah, early season injuries a team bounces back from are not nearly the same as an injury happening in a playoff game. Furthermore we're talking about the regular season that sets up the playoffs. Not the playoffs. Pointing out that the same can happen in a playoff game doesn't negate how important the regular season is. It's not the same argument. The same argument would be me coming back and saying yes, injuries can happen! Lets play 12 regular season games.
We've seen more wild card teams get dominated in the playoffs than we have seen 7 win division champions. I guess we should just eliminate all wild cards? It's ok, the change is coming sooner rather than later. |
Only twice in the last 12 or 13 years has the #1 seed been decided by anything other than head to head. In that same period four times the #2 seed has been decided. By this logic you should be bothered even less by a 2nd seed team not earning a bye, since "so often" they only got that #2 seed based on conference win percentage.
Firstly, head to head IS a tiebreaker, but secondly...
My point was along the lines of there are far less times where teams #1-#3 are decided solely by tiebreaker. In other words, just about every time, I can turn to the #3 seed and say "at least one team with a bye had a better record than you, so stop complaining about not having a bye."
In other words, there's less of a chance of a team to get screwed over as badly by, say, being the team that had to play on the road in the head to head game. You can make an argument that last year's NFC Championship was, at least in part, decided by the mere fact that the Seahawks got to play the Packers at home; I'm not sure that Seattle comeback happens if the game's in Green Bay. Tiebreakers are very often a fickle and annoying beast, and having two spots open for byes mitigates that a bit.
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about if you're just going to blindly assume the 7th best team in each conference every year is "mediocre". And I assume you've never watched playoff football if you're also assuming the #2 seed will automatically "pound" them. You're not really arguing with logic here, just blanket statements that aren't based in reality.
I listed all of the seventh best teams in the two conferences over the past three years earlier. Only once did any team have over 9 wins. I'd call 9-7 a mediocre record, so yeah, I think it's safe to assume that, far more often than not, they will be mediocre.
Perhaps instead of just simply asserting that the person you're debating "doesn't know what they're talking about" like you usually seem to do, you could provide some actual evidence to support your response here.
Well Miami would not have made it in last season. Nor would the Bills, they'd have been the 4th ranked 9-7 team. But the Texans were ending the season on a roll and were playing good defense. It also would have given the Chiefs AND Chargers something to play for in week 17 instead of just the Chargers. In 2013 you would have had the 10-6 Cardinals in after winning 7 of their last 9, losing only two games by field goals, each to 10+ win playoff teams.
These aren't 5 or 6 win teams being allowed in :)
I wasn't specifically referencing last year, but ok.
Also, as I mentioned to Rol, keep in mind I'm advocating for a system where the top 6 teams get in, regardless of division rules. That means the 2013 Cardinals would have been in, while the barely over .500 Packers stayed home.
Nah, early season injuries a team bounces back from are not nearly the same as an injury happening in a playoff game. Furthermore we're talking about the regular season that sets up the playoffs. Not the playoffs. Pointing out that the same can happen in a playoff game doesn't negate how important the regular season is. It's not the same argument. The same argument would be me coming back and saying yes, injuries can happen! Lets play 12 regular season games.
The argument you brought up initially, from what I can gather, is: "Teams can get screwed over by injuries. If you have more playoff teams, teams that suffer injuries in the regular season are less likely to be screwed out of the playoffs."
My point is that adding an additional playoff game just gives more opportunities for potential season ruining injuries, as well as giving the chance for that injury to occur in a game that wouldn't have existed otherwise. In other words, your attempt to save the occasional good team that might have gotten screwed out of the playoffs were it not for an injury doesn't hold water because you're simply giving teams more chances to have key players be injured in a far more important environment. There's no bouncing back from an injury that requires you to sit several games in the playoffs.
We've seen more wild card teams get dominated in the playoffs than we have seen 7 win division champions. I guess we should just eliminate all wild cards? It's ok, the change is coming sooner rather than later.
I don't have a clue what this statement even means, so I guess I'll ask for clarification. "We've seen more wild card teams get dominated in the playoffs than we have seen seven win division champions?" What?

| Arkaign said: Dolphins biggest surprise of 2015? I had them pegged for 8-11 win range. But they are much much less than the sum of their parts on the field. Wonder what the odds the coaching staff is fired and left in London, lol. |
They're certainly on my list. Poor Philbin may get dumped down to college coordinator for a few years...