Could also be that the mods actually see the discussion far less rigidly than you do and thus your desires for the discussion to stay so linear are being ignored by the mods?

Hmmmmm....

Not if these games have PS4 marketing exclusivity. And the majority of future big third party games will have PS4 marketing exclusivity because of the 50%+ user base. It's only starting this year with Batman, Metal Gear Solid, Battlefield, Star Wars Battlefront and Infinity (EA games right?), Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Destiny... Against Fallout 4 and The Witcher 3 (which sold better on the PS4 anyway), and maybe The Division? I surely forgot some games on both sides but the main ones are here. 

Third party games will surely benefit the PS4 a lot this generation, more than Xbox IMO. It's far more important to have the bundle exclusivity than to have a few days of early access (and PS4 can have beta test, so an even earlier access).  

It could be a lot of stuff but staying on topic of this discussion friend.

I would've just posted this, in Xbox Republic if I wanted this topic to be lost in unrelated mumbo jumbo.

Of course you can have your opinion. But the fact that you dont have personal experience with it makes your opinion mostly subjective. Just like ppl who have never been to China making absurd comments about it yet all they know are some stupid news from online/paper media. Users on this site proved me right numerous times. So yes its my subjective opinion is that ppl without actual experience on something will probably make their subjective opinion no matter how they claim they have fully researched it. Funny enough, I stand correct most of the time.

Fair enough. You can just wait for a year or two as they currently have 12/15 games added to the vault and thats the trend for future releases.

1) PSNow is a subscription based rental service just like EA Access. There's no way to circumvent this.

They just use different ways to deliver the same type of service to their customer.

The extra platforms they're on doesn't matter as we're talking about consoles here.

2) You'r metaphor couldn't be employed in a more erroneous way. You imply with it that users already got burned by EA Access, when we didn't.

All you're saying is, you have a bad feeling about something you never used and one day it might become a Loch Ness monster.

I vote with my wallet like the gamers that chose EA Access and I'll keep in mind your advice, when they try to charge us $20/month or $45/month like the other guys.

But you are making your opinion based on how you buy or not buy games. You are making a decision on a service based on *your* own buying preferences... not mine. This is why your argument is flawed.

I don't need personal experience because it's a service...doh. It's not something I need experience because it's as clear as day what it offers. If you were talking about Papa Johns Pizza, If I dont like pizza then I can make an assumption that I wont like Papa Johns Pizza.... but that's not whats being offered here. I like Pizza but Papa Johns is telling me i can have all these extra toppings for $... but I know that I dont want those toppings... See it's really easy to see that a service is not the same as a product.... I can make assumptions because they tell me what the service offers.... it's not difficult to see the big difference here.

Just to add more to my argument....here are the things they offer and why I dont need them:

The Vault... Get games some time after they release: I buy many games day 1. I own Battlefield, Need for speed, Dragon age... I own FIFA... I dont need to get FIFA every year... this has no impact on me because I buy my games. For other games I have PS+. I have hundreds of different games, I am not short of games. I collect games.

Play for less - save 10%: I am not short of money, also digital prices are usually more expensive than boxed products. I dont buy that many DLC/Expansions (see that I have hundreds of games).

Play First - I have hundreds of games, did I tell you that. I dont want to play a game before I get the box, because I am a collector, a few days before release, I dont care for it, because I dont want to have to download the data to my console.. because did I mention i have lots of games and I run out of space on my consoles regulary. 

EA - Mostly Sports games - I dont care for sports games that much, I own FIFA 14 and N2K Basket ball but they were Next Gen purchases. Most of my games 99.9% are not sports games.

So If i was to look through the vault.... I own 4 of the games, and I dont care much for Peggle, NBA Live or Titanfall. So perhaps you can now see why I ( and probably many other people who play lots of games) dont care for EA access.

So...it wasn't okay to talk about how Battlefront being on EA Access might effect the holidays as compared to the Sony marketing deal, but totally dumping Battlefront out of it and just talking about EA Access and comparing it to PSNow is totally fine?

Neat...

Anyways, will EA Access allow players to play online before the game comes out? and do we know how far ahead of time it comes out?

Remember like some other user said earlier. I'm not a mod and I can't ask people what to talk about in this thread.

I did that was ridiculed. I guess I might as well join the charade.

Thank you guys