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2008ProchargedGT on 30 June 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
GribbleGrunger said:


"The PS4 has less games than the XB1. Why is it selling more?"
"Actually it has a lot more."
"No, Indies don't count."

I'm gonna focus on this because its relevant to the discussion.

Its not that indies don't count, some are fantastic. But most are not, practically shovelware.

Except you forgot about the rest he listed which "don't count" insert random reason to fit agensa here...



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Aeolus451 on 30 June 2015
GribbleGrunger said:

"The PS4 has released in more countries. The XB1 will catch up when it releases in more countries."
"It won't make a difference. The PS4 has better hardware, better games, more games and superior multiplats."
"It will! Watch and see."

*Releases in more countries ... silence for a while.*

"It's the price I tell you! That's why the PS4 is selling more. Wait until the XB1 is cheaper ... you'll see."
"It's not the price, it's the better hardware, better games, more games and superior multiplats."

*Price cut ... silence for a while*

"The PS4 has less games than the XB1. Why is it selling more?"
"Actually it has a lot more."
"No, Indies don't count."
"It has more even without Indies."
"FTP don't count."
"It has more even without FTP."
"Remasters don't count."
"It has more even without remasters."

*Silence for a while*

"But the XB1 games are rated much higher ... that's what counts."
"Actually, the PS4 games are rated higher."

*Silence for a while*

"Why is the PS4 selling better? I don't understand it. It must be hype."


It's sad that this is almost like a phone operator or IT tech manual. 



Alkibiádēs on 30 June 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Alkibiádēs said:

The only ones saying PS4 has no games are Sony fans. Could you guys please stop playing victim in these sort of threads?

Around 90% of the xbone library is the same as the PS4 anyway, so why does it matter. People buy consoles for the multiplats mostly. And multiplats happen to run best on PS4 and PS is a more powerful brand. Japanese gamers have also never shown much intrest in foreign consoles, so Sony consoles always get much more support from Japan. But those games usually aren't big system sellers.



The PS4 has 227 exclusives and 335 multiplatform games.

The xbox one has 110 exclusives. 

Together, that's 337 exclusives and 335 mulitplatform games.

So about half the games are different from the ones that are multiplatform.

Yet you said, "Around 90% of the xbone library is the same as the PS4 anyway."

So how did you get the 90%?

 

By only taking into accounts games that matter to the audience that buys these consoles. Hint: it's not for Oliioliiwood 2.



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Mr Puggsly on 30 June 2015
estebxx said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Most of this is indie, niche and Japanese games. They arent the reasons PS4 is doing so well. Even games PS4 shares with X1 move more hardware.

The 360 BC is going to be more notable than most of those PS4 exclusives and console exclusives.


LOL meanwhile in Japan the X1 has like 60k total sales and the PS4 is over a million already... (not to mention that not only japanese people buy the system for those games im a living example...). but yeah im sure that people will run and buy an X1 so they can play Mass Effect for the 3rd time...

A million is a drop in the bucket compared to the other 21 million units PS4 has sold. This is why Sony basically just makes games for the west these days. Even their Japanese games are designed to appeal to us.

Hence, the PS4 is a massive success even without the indie, niche, Japanese games. So I repeat, "They arent the reasons PS4 is doing so well."



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2008ProchargedGT on 30 June 2015
Alkibiádēs said:
Aeolus451 said:
Alkibiádēs said:

The only ones saying PS4 has no games are Sony fans. Could you guys please stop playing victim in these sort of threads?

Around 90% of the xbone library is the same as the PS4 anyway, so why does it matter. People buy consoles for the multiplats mostly. And multiplats happen to run best on PS4 and PS is a more powerful brand. Japanese gamers have also never shown much intrest in foreign consoles, so Sony consoles always get much more support from Japan. But those games usually aren't big system sellers.



The PS4 has 227 exclusives and 335 multiplatform games.

The xbox one has 110 exclusives. 

Together, that's 337 exclusives and 335 mulitplatform games.

So about half the games are different from the ones that are multiplatform.

Yet you said, "Around 90% of the xbone library is the same as the PS4 anyway."

So how did you get the 90%?

 

By only taking into accounts games that matter to the audience that buys these consoles. Hint: it's not for Oliioliiwood 2.


Guess X1 has  1 game then cuz I've found shit else to play sep ori.



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d21lewis on 30 June 2015
tinfamous12 said:
Who cares who has more games? Play what you want. Xbox One does have a better lineup this year, Sony admitted they have a thin lineup. What is the argument about really?


Depends on the author.  Sometimes, threads like these are just a statement of fact.  Other times, it's to make a fan base feel inferior for whatever reason.

 

I actually had a guy message me on my PS4 a few days ago to tell me how shitty the Xbox One was.  That the PS4 had so many games and that both Nintendo and M$ were doomed.  I looked at his profile and all he played in recent months was Battlefield 4 and TLoU R.  I was like "Wtf?". I can't deny that the ps4 has more and arguably better games but, of all of those diverse and great exclusives, he wasn't playing any of them!  My PS4 library was more diverse than his and it's my least favorite console!

So, as stated, is usually just a pissing match.  Ten thousand exclusives is great but if you only but ten games a year, that's just more games you won't be playing.  No matter what the console, in the end, all that matters is that you play the games you want.

 

--his PSN name was Legendary Look, BTW.



Mr Puggsly on 30 June 2015
2008ProchargedGT said:
Mr Puggsly said:
GribbleGrunger said:


"The PS4 has less games than the XB1. Why is it selling more?"
"Actually it has a lot more."
"No, Indies don't count."

I'm gonna focus on this because its relevant to the discussion.

Its not that indies don't count, some are fantastic. But most are not, practically shovelware.

Except you forgot about the rest he listed which "don't count" insert random reason to fit agensa here...

Its turning into console war nonsense, I'm focusing on software.

Now go ahead and spin that.



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2008ProchargedGT on 30 June 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
estebxx said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Most of this is indie, niche and Japanese games. They arent the reasons PS4 is doing so well. Even games PS4 shares with X1 move more hardware.

The 360 BC is going to be more notable than most of those PS4 exclusives and console exclusives.


LOL meanwhile in Japan the X1 has like 60k total sales and the PS4 is over a million already... (not to mention that not only japanese people buy the system for those games im a living example...). but yeah im sure that people will run and buy an X1 so they can play Mass Effect for the 3rd time...

A million is a drop in the bucket compared to the other 21 million units PS4 has sold. This is why Sony basically just makes games for the west these days. Even their Japanese games are designed to appeal to us.

Hence, the PS4 is a massive success even without the indie, niche, Japanese games. So I repeat, "They arent the reasons PS4 is doing so well."


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Blood_Tears on 30 June 2015

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/259776/dark-souls-franchise-hits-8-million-sold/
Mr Puggsly (3 hours ago)
"Sony should be thankful for getting the games. The Playstation brand is weak without 3rd parties."

I think it's pretty obvious what this persons agenda is. Pedaling the same ol shtick every thread he goes to.



sabvre42 on 30 June 2015
2008ProchargedGT said:
GribbleGrunger said:

"The PS4 has released in more countries. The XB1 will catch up when it releases in more countries."
"It won't make a difference. The PS4 has better hardware, better games, more games and superior multiplats."
"It will! Watch and see."

*Releases in more countries ... silence for a while.*

"It's the price I tell you! That's why the PS4 is selling more. Wait until the XB1 is cheaper ... you'll see."
"It's not the price, it's the better hardware, better games, more games and superior multiplats."

*Price cut ... silence for a while*

"The PS4 has less games than the XB1. Why is it selling more?"
"Actually it has a lot more."
"No, Indies don't count."
"It has more even without Indies."
"FTP don't count."
"It has more even without FTP."
"Remasters don't count."
"It has more even without remasters."

*Silence for a while*

"But the XB1 games are rated much higher ... that's what counts."
"Actually, the PS4 games are rated higher."

*Silence for a while*

"Why is the PS4 selling better? I don't understand it. It must be hype."

LMFAO so true.

 

As a Sony fan,  I still think xbox has a shot at NA. The wild card however,  is that at least anecdotally,  a large amount of 360 owners are going master race with no intent to buy an xb1.