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Arlo said:
I can believe all of that except for a huge 3D Mario game as a launch title. We're long past the days of great launch games.

Don't lose your hope, brother! The NX shall make wonders possible from the begginning. For it is the message that we shall spread, and what glorious message it is!



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

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Arlo said:
I can believe all of that except for a huge 3D Mario game as a launch title. We're long past the days of great launch games.


It's been in production since SM3DW launched. Koizumi already confirmed it in April 2014.  At the time he said he wasn't sure if it would end up on Wii U or the next system.  Had the Wii U taken off in sales, they may have delayed NX but now I think we can be sure that the next 3D Mario will launch with NX.



Darwinianevolution said:
Arlo said:
I can believe all of that except for a huge 3D Mario game as a launch title. We're long past the days of great launch games.

Don't lose your hope, brother! The NX shall make wonders possible from the begginning. For it is the message that we shall spread, and what glorious message it is!

I have been hurt too many times before.  I am struggling with my faith...

Okay, the idea of a Nintendo Fan Confession Booth is pretty darn funny.  Might make a good thread.  XD



TheLastStarFighter said:
Arlo said:
I can believe all of that except for a huge 3D Mario game as a launch title. We're long past the days of great launch games.


It's been in production since SM3DW launched. Koizumi already confirmed it in April 2014.  At the time he said he wasn't sure if it would end up on Wii U or the next system.  Had the Wii U taken off in sales, they may have delayed NX but now I think we can be sure that the next 3D Mario will launch with NX.

Pikmin 3 was going to be a launch title too, as it had been in development for several years.  Basically I've come to expect nothing when it comes to timely releases.  If anything, deciding to put it on NX instead will mean that they'll whip up some jazz about needing more development time, and we'll all wonder why they didn't see it coming in the first place.



theprof00 said:
Please use the Official NX thread
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=199910&page=1#

I'm not sure you understand the concept of "forums".

The whole idea is that you have separate topics for distinct discussions, so that they can easily be found and continued later. Mega-threads holding thousands of distinct discussions only make sense when it's about discussion of short-term situations, like a news thread. Otherwise, such mega-threads just become burdensome as you search through hundreds of pages looking for that discussion you remember from somewhere around a month or two ago, but you're not exactly sure when it was.

An Official NX thread is a good thing... as long as it's a thread about NX news, and discussions specifically around said news. Some notable Nintendo person says something about NX, and it leads to a bit of speculation? That belongs in the Official NX thread. Some notable Nintendo person says something about some game, without mentioning NX, and someone thinks it would make sense to put it on NX rather than Wii U? New thread - it's not NX news, it's actually about that other thing the Nintendo person said. Some notable Nintendo person talks about technology in a general sense, with no mention of NX or other specifics, but someone thinks there's a link to NX? New thread. It's not about NX news, so it doesn't belong in the Official NX thread.

 

Anyway, I'm going to comment further on the ideas of "NX" referring to Nintendo's 10th <something> or Nintendo "cross". I think both are wrong. I don't think either of them is the reason for the NX codename. I suspect that the origin of the codename was "Nintendo Experience", irrespective of the form that it is going to take. If it's something like Steam, then it provides gamers with the Nintendo Experience by providing the games. If it's new hardware, it's obvious. If it's new input/output, then it's definitely about the "experience".

Also, I don't think it's going to be a "console where the controllers are also handheld systems". Not only would that make the controllers prohibitively expensive (or excessively simplistic, defeating the purpose of having them be handheld systems), but it would also mean that you can't use the controller as a handheld if it's being used for a console game at the time, thus restricting usability. It's just a bad idea. It would be more plausible to simply make a handheld that can display on the TV, if that was the intent - at least then, you aren't going to run into the issues noted above in a direct sense.

Besides which, unifying console and handheld game development (as in, so that games run on both) is a bad idea in itself. Console gaming has certain advantages. Handheld gaming has certain advantages. Some of these are directly contradictory with each other. For instance, handheld gaming is great for short-burst gameplay, while console gaming is great for longer play times. When you develop a game, you structure it based on the system it's going to be played on. No, it's far more likely the unification of development tools is intended to make it so that one could simply copy the code across from a console dev kit to a handheld dev kit, instruct it to compile, and it work exactly as intended (subject to power restrictions, of course). Putting it another way, it's making it so that an engine that works on one will also work on the other.



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Aielyn said:
theprof00 said:
Please use the Official NX thread
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=199910&page=1#

I'm not sure you understand the concept of "forums".

The whole idea is that you have separate topics for distinct discussions, so that they can easily be found and continued later. Mega-threads holding thousands of distinct discussions only make sense when it's about discussion of short-term situations, like a news thread. Otherwise, such mega-threads just become burdensome as you search through hundreds of pages looking for that discussion you remember from somewhere around a month or two ago, but you're not exactly sure when it was.

An Official NX thread is a good thing... as long as it's a thread about NX news, and discussions specifically around said news. Some notable Nintendo person says something about NX, and it leads to a bit of speculation? That belongs in the Official NX thread. Some notable Nintendo person says something about some game, without mentioning NX, and someone thinks it would make sense to put it on NX rather than Wii U? New thread - it's not NX news, it's actually about that other thing the Nintendo person said. Some notable Nintendo person talks about technology in a general sense, with no mention of NX or other specifics, but someone thinks there's a link to NX? New thread. It's not about NX news, so it doesn't belong in the Official NX thread.

 

Anyway, I'm going to comment further on the ideas of "NX" referring to Nintendo's 10th or Nintendo "cross". I think both are wrong. I don't think either of them is the reason for the NX codename. I suspect that the origin of the codename was "Nintendo Experience", irrespective of the form that it is going to take. If it's something like Steam, then it provides gamers with the Nintendo Experience by providing the games. If it's new hardware, it's obvious. If it's new input/output, then it's definitely about the "experience".

Also, I don't think it's going to be a "console where the controllers are also handheld systems". Not only would that make the controllers prohibitively expensive (or excessively simplistic, defeating the purpose of having them be handheld systems), but it would also mean that you can't use the controller as a handheld if it's being used for a console game at the time, thus restricting usability. It's just a bad idea. It would be more plausible to simply make a handheld that can display on the TV, if that was the intent - at least then, you aren't going to run into the issues noted above in a direct sense.

Besides which, unifying console and handheld game development (as in, so that games run on both) is a bad idea in itself. Console gaming has certain advantages. Handheld gaming has certain advantages. Some of these are directly contradictory with each other. For instance, handheld gaming is great for short-burst gameplay, while console gaming is great for longer play times. When you develop a game, you structure it based on the system it's going to be played on. No, it's far more likely the unification of development tools is intended to make it so that one could simply copy the code across from a console dev kit to a handheld dev kit, instruct it to compile, and it work exactly as intended (subject to power restrictions, of course). Putting it another way, it's making it so that an engine that works on one will also work on the other.

I agree with your examples, which aren't things that I've complained about.

However, when the thread is "nx discussion", and you have nx discussion....discussing an idea that is in the OP of the discussion thread (the ten systems represented by the X, as well as the "crossover" meaning), then I'd say that very well is warranted. Your condescension, as always, is noted.

Furthermore, when you have dozens of threads of "this is my idea of the nx", and the discussion thread includes theories and ideas, then that should also be warranted. Do we really need 20+ separate threads with less than 20 posts about random members ideas?



TheLastStarFighter said:

Thus far, Nintendo has launched 9 families of gaming consoles:

1. NES/Famicom

2. Gameboy Family

3. SNES Super Famicom

4. N64

5. GCN

6. NDS Family

7. Wii

8. 3DS Family

9. Wii U

FAIL! If you count the Gameboy family as 1 then you should also count the DS family as 1. GB/GBC is not the same as GBA. Graphically they're NES vs SNES apart.

So the NX is Nintendo 9



Dear God, you cracked the code...



i hate to do this but...

1. Game & Watch

2. NES / Famicom

3. SNES / Super Famicom

4. Gameboy / GBL / GBC

5. Nintendo 64

6. Gameboy Advance / Micro / SP

7. Gamecube

8. Nintendo DS / Lite / DSi

9. Wii / Wii mini

10. Nintendo 3DS / New 3DS / 2DS

11. Wii U

12. Nintendo NX

you misses the GBA line. you cant just bundle it with the orginal Gameboy since it was an entirely new generation of handhelds. and the Game & Watch was still a form of video games. so we will be looking at the Nintendo 12...



Yerm said:
i hate to do this but...

1. Game & Watch

2. NES / Famicom

3. SNES / Super Famicom

4. Gameboy / GBL / GBC

5. Nintendo 64

6. Gameboy Advance / Micro / SP

7. Gamecube

8. Nintendo DS / Lite / DSi

9. Wii / Wii mini

10. Nintendo 3DS / New 3DS / 2DS

11. Wii U

12. Nintendo NX

you misses the GBA line. you cant just bundle it with the orginal Gameboy since it was an entirely new generation of handhelds. and the Game & Watch was still a form of video games. so we will be looking at the Nintendo 12...

Nah, Game and Watch wasn't a Console.  It's individual game play systems, not a console that plays multiple games.

You can call GBA different than GB, but Nintendo didn't in naming the next system family X.