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Soundwave said:
Dunban67 said:

The reason the Wii U did not sell is because Nintendo didnt invest in it, they did not beleive in it- There was no reason to think the Wii U would have been sucesful due to how little confidence Nintendo had in its own hardware-  So the low sales became a self fullfilling prophesy-  Had they made a real sustained effort to back the Wii u and it still fell flat i could understand - but they never did-  Nintendo did far more for the game cube re quality software, 3rd party softwaree and price cuts than it ever considered for the Wii U-  They really treated Wii U owners poorly and most of them are Nintendo s best customers-  But Nintendo knew it could treat them pretty poorly, come out with a few lame statements and still maintain the near blind loyalty of those core customers-  but It looks like they tested the limits of those people they have been taking for granted with this e3 performance-   now they have even managed to upset  a significant % of their extremely loyal core-  of course there are still some that will beleive anything Nintendo tells/sells them but that group is not enough to get the next console off to a good start in 2016


The Wii brand is useless unless you have casuals/soccer moms buying in. If that didn't happen with the original Wii, that would've tanked too. 

The problem is they bet the farm on a controller gimmick + underpowered console formula again, but this time the controller gimmick did not take off as casuals became enchanted by smart devices that had even easier to play games for free (kinda hard to compete against that). 

The fact of the matter is the "hardcore" audience that buys PS3/360 was never going to be a "Wii" to be their main game console either, didn't matter how many multiplats Nintendo got. That brand is synonmous with casual gaming ... except now it doesn't have any casual fans left. 

I agree the "Wii Brand" was not the right brand for this gen Nintendo console and i d think the Wii U would have struggled bu they could have sold more hardware and software, not lost as much market share as they have and maybe most importantly gained respect among more customers/gamers to set themselves up well entering next gen-   But now they have lost tons of market share, loat alot of respect among the industry as well as gamers and created alot of distrust-  So they will need to invest heavily up front in launching thier next hardware with no guarantees-

Sony got off to a terrible strat w the PS4 but learned from ts mistakes and worked very hard to gain both teir reputation as a brand as well as market share back - doing so made it much eaiser to launch the PS4 with strong momentum at the start-  

MSFT had a horrible luanch for the XB1 but quickly made major changes, bit the bullet iand is earning their reptutation back day by day and doing a pretty good job at moving hardware and software )far better than Nintendo)    But Nintenod mae very little effort to right the ship and it shows



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KingdomHeartsFan said:

Its Nintendo's fault the Wii U is selling bad, they came out with it now they have to support it or risk losing gamers trust.  Gamers aren't gonna think well the Wii U is selling like shit so its okay for you to cut the support early Nintendo.



Sums it up perfectly, as much as I love Nintendo, putting out your console to pasture when it hasn't even been out for 3 years does not make me want to rush out and buy an NX. What if NX stumbles out of the blocks? are Nintendo going to do the same thing as Wii U? I have spent hundreds of pounds supporting the console with games, and whilst it has been immense fun, I will not spend another penny with Nintendo if they are going to drop support when things don't go to plan.


well said-   Even Iwata said something similar a few months ago but obviously he thinks he can feed people chicken shit and tell them it is chicken salad- 



The sad part is that you are right, and I agree. But even then, Nintendo's E3 was dreadful and I wasn't expecting more Animal Crossing cash grab strategies.



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

I know that the Wii U isn't selling well nor would it have magical boost in sales... but that doesn't mean I don't like the Wii U



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