oh come off it, Nintendo has supported the Wii U wayyyyyyyyyy more than, say, Sony has supported the Vita. the reality is that you guys are being to hard on Nintendo, you NOTICE the less amount of games because of the absense of third party supporty

Nintendo is very likely releasing more first party games on the Wii U count wise than Microsoft/Sony are on their systems, yet Nintendo gets all of this hate from fans with ignorance that the lack of 3rd party support is why things seem so staunch

also I don't like this whiny attitude, you have no idea what Nintendo might announce, for gods sake clearly Nintendo does not care THAT much about E3, they've been doing streaming events and not bothering much for years, just because they aren't making big announcements at the moment doesn't mean they won't come.

 also bear in mind how the early (way early) Zelda Wii U announcement has hurt them because it's been delayed so long. maybe they are just being careful to not announce things too early

bear in mind Nintendo is releasing some big games even this year (Star Fox, SPlatoon, Xenoblade) and that they do have some interesting IPs coming up in Devil's Third and the Fatal Frame sequel that they've helped develop

in terms of the Wii U people are not being realistic in the sense that Nintendo can't just blindly throw money into developing games for a system they will not make any returns/money from. I think they are trying their best and that a lot of other companies would have possibly abanoned the Wii U earlier on had they went through what Nintendo has in terms of sales success

again, look at the Vita-  Sony has not pushed any big games at all in the last year. people also need to bear in mind that Nintendo practically soley pushes both their handheld and home console. they've done a great job with the 3DS and a pretty good job in terms of quality titles with the Wii U, but you've got to keep in mind that Nintendo is constantly working on big titles for BOTH systems- unlike a Sony who is ignoring the Vita

I just think the fanbase should be fair. Nintendo has pushed out some of the highest ratest games of this generation as exclusives (obviously) for the Wii U and seems as if they aren't getting any credit for that now. Smash, Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, there have been quality titles

 it's weird because I thought in the past that Nintendo fans appreciated quality >>> quantity, but that does not seem to be the case anymore. or maybe its just the vocal 'fans' who we're hearing...

you're off base

the Wii U didn't sell badly because Nintendo no longer has a fan base- a huge amount of the world has great memories of Nintendo games and has relatively positive thoughts on the company- look how many people own 3DS's, its obvious the fanbase hasn't disappeared

   the reality is that the Wii U was marketed terribly in terms of its connection with the Wii (or lackof), the use of the controller/gamepad, and generally 'why' people should buy it

    I don't think Nintendo should be afraid of losing potential buyers by transitioning to their next console in the next year or 2, it's the only natural thing to do considering its sales.

  Iwata has already expressed that there are lots of projects for the Wii U still being developed and that obviously Nintendo still is going to be putting out plenty of software. people are jumping the gun too early with this E3 stuff, Nintendo just does not care much for E3 and is not really more likely to release big information at E3 than other points in the year

   regardless, the Wii U failed to grab a lot of Nintendo's fanbase that have went for the 3DS or just opted for a different system. a casual gamer is not going to jump on the touchscreen gamepad, it just wasn't realistic

   Nintendo will be fine with the NX as long as its a straight forward system and is advertised well. especially if they really do integrate connection between NX home console and handheld there should be nothing stopping it considering how large Nintendo's handheld fanbase is

people need to stop freaking out and whining, its hilarious you all acting as if Nintendo will lose their fanbase if they drop the Wii U early when most of the highest ratest games so far this generation have been on the Wii U and 1st party Nintendo titles

How did those good business decisions work out for SEGA soundwave? They are backing themselves into a corner. 

Your logic completely ignores future sales of said platforms and how they will be affected. If the NX is a home console, it will end like the dreamcast, and what then? Rush yet another system hoping things get better? That isnt a viable srategy.

When buying a system, customers put their faith on the system creators to make the investment worth it. If it isnt they wont make the same mistake next time. Do you think Sony has any chance of releasing a sucessful portabLe after the Vita? They wont even atempt such foolishness. Nintendo is heading in the same direction now. If you dont support your system, customers wont support you, its that simple. NX is already doomed.

I dont know who is complaining about the 3DS though. Its seen alot of support. Its the Wii U that is a problem.

nintendo should change some things. we need more ports, and we need more indies.
nintendo should take away some of the risk from 3rd partys. if the 3rd partys dont have to pay for the first 200k copys, wells that would make em more willing to port, because they could make save cash even if the wiiu port ust sales 250k. and nintendo needs atleast some ports.

i think good development tools - this is required. and Nintendo should listen to 3rd party support (mostly Western devs). As this impacts there isn't any games outside Nintendo wanted to release.  Since HD takes time, surely they need a ton of developer studios to create games but end of the day, they would be limited and pushing AAA new IPs to success is really difficult. 

Nintendo need 3rd party support on their next console, if they can pull the crossover games and fund a few 3rd party developed games they should be able to. Imagine no football game for WiiU, Konami has PES, why not NIntendo try to collaborate with Konami to have a PES WiiU version.  It would sell in Japan.  It will attract the western WiiU owners as well.  But Nintendo being Nintendo. They should admit that 3rd party developers need the SDKs that can easily port PS4, X1 games to WiiU.  but there are other technical specs that need to consider which would always look the WiiU version the inferior one and sales would be bad.  

Nintendo come on, you need to wake up.  Support the Wii U on a 5-year plan like other consoles but provide more game variety while supporting it.  Nobody would buy your new console if you couldn't support properly the Wii U. 

I'm cool with my current Wii U game library, it is those single console owners that would really be pissed on droughts and too many meh games in between AAA and AA games. 

I wonder what happened to johnlucas.. his UNITY thread was pure gold xD

The SEGA analogy again does not work. Sega released the 32X and 8 months later surprise released the Saturn with no marketing in the US. They failed to support both. 

Nintendo hasn't done that, they have supported the Wii U quite well, they just lost the casual/soccer mom demographic entirely and basically found themselves with a system that no one but Nintendo fans wanted. The Wii U is more like the original XBox which was supported by MS for 4 years than either the 32X or Saturn. 

If NX fails, then Nintendo is probably done with hardware and will become a third party. But the NX can fail just as easily if Nintendo is preoccupied supporting the failing Wii U and launches the NX slowly. 

The longer the Wii U stays on the market, likely the more damage is being done to Nintendo's brand. 

I'm pretty sure Wii U will be replaced until 2018, six years after launch, like the Wii. Sales doesn't matter. Just a random cycle.

Yup. Time to move on. Winter 2016, baby.

Lets not act like this is the first failure system Nintendo had. But with the GC they supported it to the last (also with pretty agressive price cuts). That has not been the case with the Wii U.

You can see on this website how the core Nintendo fans are reacting to this situation. So, if they lose their core fans, who is going to buy the NX? It will potencially do worse than the Wii U unless it somehow manages to earn back some of the customers it lost.

I dont think that staying longer in the market with the Wii U would hurt them anymore. They would keep their core fanbase and the only other people who care are core gamers that are rooted on the rival consoles. The casual audience they lost doesnt go about reading internet forums and gaming news so they wouldnt know the difference. The only way to regain that audience is to go back to some simplistic gimmick anyways.

So, the question becomes: Who is Nintendo trying to get with this? Core fans will be pissed off, casual gamers will only come with a simplistic gimmick, core gamers from rival companies? I dont see who is asking for this nor who this is directed at. Either way, i dont see how it can work any better than the Wii U.

Only chance i see is the so called Fusion and trying to unify both markets because on the portable market they are still strong. Home console market is completely lost like this. Not even the 10m of the Wii U will come back.