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Super Mario and Tetris are still ridiculously popular despite how "crappy" they are by current technology standards. That's over 20 years. How many of today's flashy games will still be played 20 years from now once they're replaced by the next generation of flashy games?



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Million said:
El Duderino said:
Onyxmeth said:
kenzomatic said:
Garcian Smith said:
Anyone who says anything other than 6th or 7th is succumbing to nostalgia.

And Citizen Kane sucked because it was in black & white. (sarcasim)

Completely different scenario. You can't compare movies and games in that way. Games are an expanding technology. Movies could be at their prime the moment a camera was first used to show them. The only thing time has given us in movies is color and special effects. The acting has been around since the 1930's. It has changed drastically from yesteryears to today but I can find as many slam dunk performances back then as I can now. I say the 70's gave the best performances ever, and no amount of Michael Bay or Gore Verbinski slap happy effects movies will ever change that.

 


Acting has been around since the 1930s ??? MUAHAHAHAHA !!! Have you ever been to a real theatre ??? I´m just messing with you, I know what your saying but still, the coparison is legit. Games like Tetris and Super Mario Brothers the Legend of Zelda, are still among the best games ever made, does it matter how many pixles and colors they had ??? I´d even say the earn bonus points for beeing great eventhough they had limitations, often having limited resources forces us to be more creative... Citisen Cain will always be among the best movies, NES and SNES games will always be among the best video games, if you think otherwise you could argue Leonardo da Vinci made worse paintings than people today because he didn´t have the technology we use to make art with today...


By today's standards Tetris and Super Mario are crappy games , my 7 year old bro wouldn't touch it , the public wouldn't buy it and anyone with half a brain would recognise how crappy they are.

What your doing is comparing the games by the standard that was set in that era, hell with the tools availble to me now I could have made a legendary game , for that "era".


Thats why Virtual Console is such a failure.../sarcasm

I just gave my little brother the game Day of the Tentacle and he literally ate it up... why ??? Because that game has style, is timeless and has a great humor...and I tought my brother to respect whats good not whats new and shiny... I also played Starcraft against him and he loves it... gave him Fable two weeks ago and he just finished it... for the third time (ok that game is a little short) point is these games are timeless and fun, no graphical advancement will ever change that...



 

 

 

Garcian Smith said:
Faxanadu said:
there is no I in sarcasm

show me a game this gen that is more fun to play than secret of mana, chrono trigger, link to past, zombies ate neighbours or illusion of gaia. has nothing to do with nostalgia but with fun.

Games aren't more fun to you exactly because of nostalgia. I'll readily admit that I don't have as much fun playing games now as I had as a kid. That doesn't mean that games got worse; it means that I got older. Now I have a more critical eye and a capacity to distinguish shades of grey between "bloody awesome" and "pure crap." So do you. That's why games don't seem as fun as they did back then.

@ kenzomatic: By today's standards, most 2D platformers are overly simplistic affairs where you hold right and press the jump button a lot. And compared to, say, Tetris DS, the original Game Boy/NES Tetris cartridges are pure crap, and you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who would pick the second over the first. Chess really isn't comparable.


While what you say is true to some extend, it's not The Truth.

I, for one, played Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island for the first time about 2 years ago. So, no nostalgia there.

And I must say, it's one of the BEST games I ever played, easily trouncing games like Assassin's Creed or Oblivion.



Phendrana said:
Super Mario and Tetris are still ridiculously popular despite how "crappy" they are by current technology standards. That's over 20 years. How many of today's flashy games will still be played 20 years from now once they're replaced by the next generation of flashy games?
Flash games are crappy by todays technological standards I don't get your point ? Now if you was to compare a game like GTA 4 against Super Mario Bros 20 years from now I'd say GTA 4 would kick it's ass hands down.

 

Thats why Virtual Console is such a failure.../sarcasm

I just gave my little brother the game Day of the Tentacle and he literally ate it up... why ??? Because that game has style, is timeless and has a great humor...and I tought my brother to respect whats good not whats new and shiny... I also played Starcraft against him and he loves it... gave him Fable two weeks ago and he just finished it... for the third time (ok that game is a little short) point is these games are timeless and fun, no graphical advancement will ever change that...

 

Any company that derived all it's Income from virtual console would eithe A.Go Bust B.Not Remain Profitable for very long C.Remain profitable and not make a considerable amount of money , VC is one of the many places Nintendo generates revenue from. Try comparing the sales of VC to XBOX Live or PSN I'll leave VG Chartz forever if VC makes more.

 As for your little brother enjoying tetris , most proly if your in a car with nothing else to do . But if he's in your house with a PS3 / XBOX 360 / Wii beside him then I'd be concerned.

 




Chess cannot be improved upon. It's a bad analogy.

Secondly I was referring to the 1930's because of the Citizen Kane comment, not because it's when the ability to act actually began. I was wrong however since CK came out in 1941. I just IMDBed it.

When you remake a movie, you don't necessarily make it better. Sure the film quality can be better, and the sound can, but the performances will be different and I give you Psycho as an example. On the other hand a videogame remake like Resident Evil improved upon the first in every way and no one can deny that. It handled better because of new technology, looked better because of it, sounded better because of it, because there is no human inside of a game, just further advancing technology.

I understand those that want to give other eras, but it's based more on your own interest at the time than anything else. I was more interested in gaming from 1996-2000 so my favorite consoles are usually the Dreamcast, N64 and PS1 and their games but I don't believe their games are superior, I just loved gaming more back then. 



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Chrizum said:
Garcian Smith said:
Faxanadu said:
there is no I in sarcasm

show me a game this gen that is more fun to play than secret of mana, chrono trigger, link to past, zombies ate neighbours or illusion of gaia. has nothing to do with nostalgia but with fun.

Games aren't more fun to you exactly because of nostalgia. I'll readily admit that I don't have as much fun playing games now as I had as a kid. That doesn't mean that games got worse; it means that I got older. Now I have a more critical eye and a capacity to distinguish shades of grey between "bloody awesome" and "pure crap." So do you. That's why games don't seem as fun as they did back then.

@ kenzomatic: By today's standards, most 2D platformers are overly simplistic affairs where you hold right and press the jump button a lot. And compared to, say, Tetris DS, the original Game Boy/NES Tetris cartridges are pure crap, and you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who would pick the second over the first. Chess really isn't comparable.


While what you say is true to some extend, it's not The Truth.

I, for one, played Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island for the first time about 2 years ago. So, no nostalgia there.

And I must say, it's one of the BEST games I ever played, easily trouncing games like Assassin's Creed or Oblivion.


Well, yeah; it's not the truth in all cases. I still love a bunch of games from older generations as well. But those people who claim that gaming as a whole peaked some time in the mid '90s and has been going downhill ever since, as many people in this thread seem to imply, are just silly.



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4th gen. mainly because of Chrono Trigger and Super Metroid
Also, don't forget Street Fighter II, A Link to the Past, Super Mario Allstars+Super Mario World, Kirby Superstar, Castlevania IV, Donkey Kong Country, Sonic the Hedgehog, Zero Wing of course and many many others (I had a Super Nintendo back then, only played the Sega at frends)
Oh also, check out Screw Attack's top 20 SNES games. Part one:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31740.html



If El Duderino love innovation he should have voted for first gen.



Onyxmeth said:

Chess cannot be improved upon. It's a bad analogy.

Secondly I was referring to the 1930's because of the Citizen Kane comment, not because it's when the ability to act actually began. I was wrong however since CK came out in 1941. I just IMDBed it.

When you remake a movie, you don't necessarily make it better. Sure the film quality can be better, and the sound can, but the performances will be different and I give you Psycho as an example. On the other hand a videogame remake like Resident Evil improved upon the first in every way and no one can deny that. It handled better because of new technology, looked better because of it, sounded better because of it, because there is no human inside of a game, just further advancing technology.

I understand those that want to give other eras, but it's based more on your own interest at the time than anything else. I was more interested in gaming from 1996-2000 so my favorite consoles are usually the Dreamcast, N64 and PS1 and their games but I don't believe their games are superior, I just loved gaming more back then. 

I said the chess analogy because of the "my 7 year old bro wouldn't touch it" quote.

And it is comprable King Kong looks better today, and pong is not goint to be improved.

 



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Million said:
Phendrana said:
Super Mario and Tetris are still ridiculously popular despite how "crappy" they are by current technology standards. That's over 20 years. How many of today's flashy games will still be played 20 years from now once they're replaced by the next generation of flashy games?
Flash games are crappy by todays technological standards I don't get your point ? Now if you was to compare a game like GTA 4 against Super Mario Bros 20 years from now I'd say GTA 4 would kick it's ass hands down.

 


FlashY <-- The y's important. By flashy I mean graphically fancy. And you prove my point wonderfully. In 20 years once we have GTA 10, who's going to be playing GTA 4? They'll still be playing Super Mario though....