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kingofwale on 13 March 2008
selnor said:
kingofwale said:
selnor said:
^Cool. People mistake me sometimes for stating true comments about this generation. They call me 360 fanboy cause no PS3. But I wont agree just to make fanboys feel better. I loved every consoled I owned so far. NOT THE COMPANY!

Honestly, with predictions like this, you really wonder why people would asume you are a 360 fanboy who dislikes PS3?

 

Gens End predictions 2007 end Predictions

Wii - 125 - 130 mill Wii - 18 - 19 mill

360 - 85 - 90 mill 360 - 15 - 16 mill

PS3 - 45 - 50 mill PS3 - 6 -7 mill

DS - 150 - 155 mill DS - 60 - 65 mill

PSP - 70 - 75 mill PSP - 24 - 27 mill

 


? See what I mean. :)


 By intentionally underpredicting PS3's number in end of 08?
And frankly, here's an honest question, do you think 360 will sell 90 million in its lifetime? Or are you just trying to be a fanboy and ask for flames?

Honestly, whether you are a fanboy or not really matters very little to me.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
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kingofwale on 13 March 2008
DeguelloNWR said:
HURK HURK, king of whale. Just jump on like a leech and don't have an original thought. Bottom-feeder.

1. No, third parties are stupid because they aren't supporting the market leader.
2. Sony is stupid because $600 is not the sort of price that drives momentum in a product
3. "Lens problems" and temporary online issues do not equal Microsoft's self-admitted high percentage error rate of 360's, effectively making most early consoles highly susceptible for error.
4. Nobody seemed to care last generation.
5. I was talking about the Sticker price.
6. This one is about how When the PS2 was King, all we'd hear about was Japanese this and Japanese that. Now suddenly it's not. Mainly because Japanese third parties don't support the market leader enough, and a sudden introverision of the American Games Press.
7. You just put words in my mouth. Which is ok, because you put other things in YOUR mouth.
8. Profit includes revenue, idiot. If you just have high revenue and LOSE MONEY, it's worse than having low revenue and high profit.
9. This is also linked to #1. Last generation the Gamecube and Xbox were denied most every game based on userbase and userbase alone. Suddenly, when things turn for the unexpected, the response is not to adapt, but to try and divide gamers into groups.

 I'm sorry, did you just call me an idiot? Please go read an economics book and then come and tell me the defintion of "profit" and "revenue"



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
mesoteto on 13 March 2008
DeguelloNWR said:
HURK HURK, king of whale. Just jump on like a leech and don't have an original thought. Bottom-feeder.

1. No, third parties are stupid because they aren't supporting the market leader.
2. Sony is stupid because $600 is not the sort of price that drives momentum in a product
3. "Lens problems" and temporary online issues do not equal Microsoft's self-admitted high percentage error rate of 360's, effectively making most early consoles highly susceptible for error.
4. Nobody seemed to care last generation.
5. I was talking about the Sticker price.
6. This one is about how When the PS2 was King, all we'd hear about was Japanese this and Japanese that. Now suddenly it's not. Mainly because Japanese third parties don't support the market leader enough, and a sudden introverision of the American Games Press.
7. You just put words in my mouth. Which is ok, because you put other things in YOUR mouth.
8. Profit includes revenue, idiot. If you just have high revenue and LOSE MONEY, it's worse than having low revenue and high profit.
9. This is also linked to #1. Last generation the Gamecube and Xbox were denied most every game based on userbase and userbase alone. Suddenly, when things turn for the unexpected, the response is not to adapt, but to try and divide gamers into groups.

i get it you made a gay joke....man thats really funny you should do stand up

 



 

selnor on 13 March 2008
kingofwale said:
selnor said:
kingofwale said:
selnor said:
^Cool. People mistake me sometimes for stating true comments about this generation. They call me 360 fanboy cause no PS3. But I wont agree just to make fanboys feel better. I loved every consoled I owned so far. NOT THE COMPANY!

Honestly, with predictions like this, you really wonder why people would asume you are a 360 fanboy who dislikes PS3?

 

Gens End predictions 2007 end Predictions

Wii - 125 - 130 mill Wii - 18 - 19 mill

360 - 85 - 90 mill 360 - 15 - 16 mill

PS3 - 45 - 50 mill PS3 - 6 -7 mill

DS - 150 - 155 mill DS - 60 - 65 mill

PSP - 70 - 75 mill PSP - 24 - 27 mill

 


? See what I mean. :)


 By intentionally underpredicting PS3's number in end of 08?
And frankly, here's an honest question, do you think 360 will sell 90 million in its lifetime? Or are you just trying to be a fanboy and ask for flames?

Honestly, whether you are a fanboy or not really matters very little to me.


I havent made a 2008 Pediction. And as far as gens end goes.....

I made that before HD Dvd Died. Also in terms of games when I wrote that the PS3 much like now compared with the competioton had little to tear me as a gamer away from the other 2. EG. Resistance or Bio shock. Forza 2 or F1. Lost Odyessey or Enchanted Arms.

Come on. seriously as a gamer open your eyes. I'm sorry I offended you. I know how much you love square enix, but if a games good I'll say. If it's poor I'll say. And lack of quality I'll say. I never said you were poor. I said a machines suppot was. No attack on you. :)



melbye on 13 March 2008

Japanese third-parties hate Nintendo



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mesoteto on 13 March 2008

@king--profit=revenue minus expenses

but according to "big d magree"

revenue = uber more importante then profit



 

kingofwale on 13 March 2008
selnor said:
kingofwale said:
selnor said:
kingofwale said:
selnor said:
^Cool. People mistake me sometimes for stating true comments about this generation. They call me 360 fanboy cause no PS3. But I wont agree just to make fanboys feel better. I loved every consoled I owned so far. NOT THE COMPANY!

Honestly, with predictions like this, you really wonder why people would asume you are a 360 fanboy who dislikes PS3?

 

Gens End predictions 2007 end Predictions

Wii - 125 - 130 mill Wii - 18 - 19 mill

360 - 85 - 90 mill 360 - 15 - 16 mill

PS3 - 45 - 50 mill PS3 - 6 -7 mill

DS - 150 - 155 mill DS - 60 - 65 mill

PSP - 70 - 75 mill PSP - 24 - 27 mill

 


? See what I mean. :)


By intentionally underpredicting PS3's number in end of 08?
And frankly, here's an honest question, do you think 360 will sell 90 million in its lifetime? Or are you just trying to be a fanboy and ask for flames?

Honestly, whether you are a fanboy or not really matters very little to me.


I havent made a 2008 Pediction. And as far as gens end goes.....

I made that before HD Dvd Died. Also in terms of games when I wrote that the PS3 much like now compared with the competioton had little to tear me as a gamer away from the other 2. EG. Resistance or Bio shock. Forza 2 or F1. Lost Odyessey or Enchanted Arms.

Come on. seriously as a gamer open your eyes. I'm sorry I offended you. I know how much you love square enix, but if a games good I'll say. If it's poor I'll say. And lack of quality I'll say. I never said you were poor. I said a machines suppot was. No attack on you. :)


 I don't think you got what I was saying... making a prediction should be unbiased. Like I'd predict xbox would outsell PS3 on 08 REGARDLESS of my feeling toward certain console.

Prediction you xbox to sell 90 million seems to me that you've added a lot of your personal feeling into it. And that's why I wouldn't be surprised if people see you as a fanboy.

I like SE's GAMES, I could care less about the studio itself, don't own the stock anyway.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
kingofwale on 13 March 2008
mesoteto said:
@king--profit=revenue minus expenses

but according to "big d magree"

revenue = uber more importante then profit

 profit is a part of revenue, not the otherway around like the poster said. Trust me, I'm an economics major.

 

Personally, I think both are important. Revenue will be important when you are taking over a company. Profit is important if you are near bankrupcy  



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
selnor on 13 March 2008
kingofwale said:
selnor said:
kingofwale said:
selnor said:
kingofwale said:
selnor said:
^Cool. People mistake me sometimes for stating true comments about this generation. They call me 360 fanboy cause no PS3. But I wont agree just to make fanboys feel better. I loved every consoled I owned so far. NOT THE COMPANY!

Honestly, with predictions like this, you really wonder why people would asume you are a 360 fanboy who dislikes PS3?

 

Gens End predictions 2007 end Predictions

Wii - 125 - 130 mill Wii - 18 - 19 mill

360 - 85 - 90 mill 360 - 15 - 16 mill

PS3 - 45 - 50 mill PS3 - 6 -7 mill

DS - 150 - 155 mill DS - 60 - 65 mill

PSP - 70 - 75 mill PSP - 24 - 27 mill

 


? See what I mean. :)


By intentionally underpredicting PS3's number in end of 08?
And frankly, here's an honest question, do you think 360 will sell 90 million in its lifetime? Or are you just trying to be a fanboy and ask for flames?

Honestly, whether you are a fanboy or not really matters very little to me.


I havent made a 2008 Pediction. And as far as gens end goes.....

I made that before HD Dvd Died. Also in terms of games when I wrote that the PS3 much like now compared with the competioton had little to tear me as a gamer away from the other 2. EG. Resistance or Bio shock. Forza 2 or F1. Lost Odyessey or Enchanted Arms.

Come on. seriously as a gamer open your eyes. I'm sorry I offended you. I know how much you love square enix, but if a games good I'll say. If it's poor I'll say. And lack of quality I'll say. I never said you were poor. I said a machines suppot was. No attack on you. :)


 I don't think you got what I was saying... making a prediction should be unbiased. Like I'd predict xbox would outsell PS3 on 08 REGARDLESS of my feeling toward certain console.

Prediction you xbox to sell 90 million seems to me that you've added a lot of your personal feeling into it. And that's why I wouldn't be surprised if people see you as a fanboy.

I like SE's GAMES, I could care less about the studio itself, don't own the stock anyway.


You missed my point. BASED ON THE MARKET PREVIOUSLY AND CURRENTLY IN THIS GEN. AS PS3 HAS FEW QUALITY TITLES IN COMARISON I MADE MY PREDICTION BASED ON THAT. NO PERSONAL INPUT.

I was unaware how people are so naively loyal to a company even when they lose out on the top games of the gen.

Is that easier?. :)



luinil on 13 March 2008

eesshh... I have learned that there are too many rabid haters... lighten up people!



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