im getting FF13 vibes and i dont like it

Not really his fault, SE were in disarray and him and his team were constantly being pulled off to help with other projects, the whole development chaos was not his doing.

I think that's the main thing that has fans of the original Versus concepts worried. Stella was almost sybollic of a strong female character in keeping with the darker tones of those trailers. The new trailers don't portray anything close to the darker nature of Versus, and all we've seen of Luna point to a more sterotypical and weaker anime trope.

I wouldn't worry too much about the work going into the demo. The demo is effectively their beta-tests. It's almost like Steam's early-access program and allows them to test out the implementation of game concepts for the final release.

Presentation counts for a lot. The earlier concept trailers point to a deeper and darker world from which people inferred Stella to be a strong female character. The newer trailers have been presented as lighter in nature and suggest more anime-centric stereotypical tropes (yes, even that 3 seconds worth!).

You're right though, we can't know how deep or strong the characters are/were and it seems a bit silly with how little concrete information we have. But this is how SE wants the game to be perceived now vs how the game was perceived back in the Versus days. Like I said, presentation counts for a lot.

This, I was intrigued and interested in the original concept but the game looks to have strayed from it and turned into something more in line and typical as far as the series and rpgs go. Even the character types of characters like Noctis that Nomura said was going to be unlike what people expected from a main central character seem to have been overridden.

There's a serious over reaction to this. People are mourning a character that didn't even exist outside of a few trailers, and they defended themselves for some changes. You're pissed off over losing a concept of an idea people formulated in their heads over a decade. Stella might have been the most obnoxious emo character ever and you wouldn't even have known until release.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII died a LONG time ago. It's time to move on, and i'm seriously stunned people haven't accepted this already.

Really hate to say this, but people are right when they say Final Fantasy Fandumb. I hate being apart of this community. Every single piece of news has to be an over reaction, that leads to threats, cries, and more. We all know you'll purchase the fucking game so just.....stop.

You do realize that Nomura was removed as director as part of the changes to SE's development staff, right? As in, he was part of the problem. In fact, his removal and subsequent full time shift to KHIII is the only notable change at such a high level, meaning, again, he was part of the problem. Nomura has been well known in the past generation (and even two if you wanna look at the roots of this issue) for being worse than Aonuma with pacing his teams. 

Which all brings me back to: One game, the details of which you barely knew, was run by Nomura alone and would likely have never come out without Square's "terrible management" outright forcing him to get moving. The other, run superficially by Nomura, will actually release.

I think people who followed FFVS13 for 7+ years knows what and who Stella was and there was a reason people were pinning their hopes on this darker RPG because it was doing something different. Just because you think she "Might" have been obnoxious characater ever, shows your lack of understanding about the game development history. And versus died when Tetsuya Nomura was replace. 

I sure bought a PS3 for this game, but I m not buying this on PS4, just like I avoided ff13. And I am not a FF fan, the only FF I played was FF9 besides that nothing impressed me untill FFvs13.

I remember the very day that Versus XIII was announced. I was 15 years old. I'm almost 24 now. I have quite the extensive knowledge on Versus XIIIs development history, probably more-so than the average Final Fantasy fan. However, i'm not going to lose my mind over a character that barely had any detail that fleshed her out. People assumed a LOT about Versus XIII because details were sparse. Remember the days where fucking clothing lines was big news about the game? Even had she been a strong pro-female character, need I remind you how much hate Lightning receives for that very same reason?

The dark atmosphere may still remain as it's clear they've only been showing trailers on a very specific part of the game as a whole - since the change from Versus to XV. However, I mean if you want to lose your damn mind over something you clearly have no information about, then by all means. Prove my point - keep following fantasies and then complain when those standards aren't met or are altered.

Well you cant be more wrong. Square did acknowledge that they had to shift staff from Nomura's team on to final fantasy 13, and it was a sensible business decision at that time coz Versus was a PS3 exclusive and 13 was not, so which would have been more benefinicial was not a suprise.

and about finishing the game, when versus was re revealed as 15, the game looked long way into the development on a Direct X11 pc, and SE went and add more staff to complete the game as this was no longer an exclusive. But the problem started to arise when Nomura was told to alter the content and his vision as a numbered final fantasy couldnt be this dark, hence it was named Versus13 before. Nomura did tried his best to cut down the darkness and action element but that wasnt enought so SE replaced him and the result is in front of us