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crissindahouse on 10 March 2016
dobryser said:
shikamaru317 said:

Gears 4 is 60 fps for multiplayer as well, and full 1080p for MP whereas Halo 5 wasn't. As for your 60 fps argument, Halo 5 was behind Black Ops 3 and SW Battlefront in graphics this past year on XB1, both of which were 60 fps and had a higher MP resolution than Halo 5 (900p whereas Halo 5 dynamic resolution had drops close to 720p). Let's face it, after Corrine Yu left 343 for Naughty Dog their engine team just wasn't the same. I don't think they're capable of delivering a great looking game using their proprietary engine anymore, Corrine Yu was the main reason that Halo 4 was the single best looking 7th gen game, without her Halo 5 wasn't even top 15 best looking for 8th gen and we're only 2 years into the generation....

The smartest thing MS can do at this point is move all of their studios behind a single engine like EA and Rockstar have done in the past with Frostbite and RAGE. It's easier and cheaper to maintain and upgrade a single engine instead of multiple engines. I think Unreal 4 should be that single engine for Microsoft Studios, 5 of their games are already using it (Gears 4, Crackdown 3, Scalebound, Sea of Thieves, and Fable Legends pre cancellation). The only studios that shouldn't be unified behind Unreal 4 imo are Turn 10 and Playground, the engine Turn 10 has developed for Forza is pretty good and Unreal isn't as well suited to racing games. 

Both games dont have the sandbox that Halo 5 SP have and that take resources. I disagree that Black Ops 3 looks better than Halo 5 SP. With Halo 5 you also get perfect 60 fps . Call of Duty is 60 fps pr.  And we have seen nothing from Gears 4 MP. All coverage was 30 fps SP.  

And are you serious about Corrine ? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. One fucking person dont make a whole engine. 343 Industries still have the same developers that have made the Halo 4 engine. The main reason why Halo 4 was single best looking game was 30 fps SP and 6 + years experience with the hardware.

Stop. You are wrong.

Well, Corrine is considered as one of the biggest geniuses on this planet if it comes to game engines and stuff like that. She does obviously not work alone but that doesn't change that one single person can make a big difference. Same goes for many other people on this planet. 

You should read more about her and what she did in the past to get called that good. It doesn't come from nowhere, she has some huge achievements which helped the industry a lot in this department.   



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AsGryffynn on 10 March 2016
shikamaru317 said:
dobryser said:

This makes no sense at all. You are comparing Gears to a game that have huge sandbox with everything running at 60 fps. Would Halo 5 have better graphics and splitscreen at 30 fps ? Of course. Many people shits with no reason on 343 Industries and are forgetting that this was the first 60 fps game for this team. A jump from 30 fps to 60 fps is not easy for a dev. Halo 5 has one of the best 60 fps game graphics. It shits on many 30 fps games too. 

Gears 4 is 60 fps for multiplayer as well, and full 1080p for MP whereas Halo 5 wasn't. As for your 60 fps argument, Halo 5 was behind Black Ops 3 and SW Battlefront in graphics this past year on XB1, both of which were 60 fps and had a higher MP resolution than Halo 5 (900p whereas Halo 5 dynamic resolution had drops close to 720p). Let's face it, after Corrine Yu left 343 for Naughty Dog their engine team just wasn't the same. I don't think they're capable of delivering a great looking game using their proprietary engine anymore, Corrine Yu was the main reason that Halo 4 was the single best looking 7th gen game, without her Halo 5 wasn't even top 15 best looking for 8th gen and we're only 2 years into the generation....

The smartest thing MS can do at this point is move all of their studios behind a single engine like EA and Rockstar have done in the past with Frostbite and RAGE. It's easier and cheaper to maintain and upgrade a single engine instead of multiple engines. I think Unreal 4 should be that single engine for Microsoft Studios, 5 of their games are already using it (Gears 4, Crackdown 3, Scalebound, Sea of Thieves, and Fable Legends pre cancellation). The only studios that shouldn't be unified behind Unreal 4 imo are Turn 10 and Playground, the engine Turn 10 has developed for Forza is pretty good and Unreal isn't as well suited to racing games. 

I'd argue that Halo 5 was the best looking Halo to date, but the problem is that the engine they created was badly built. If anything, I think they should use Turn 10's proprietary engine over Unreal... 

Corrine wasn't the only reason it was good looking, yet she did a lot to ensure it ran smoothly, so having someone like her might have helped, but I also doubt she'd magically fix Halo 5. There's also the fact that programmers actually sacrificed the performance in favor of adding more effects and physics (the Prometheans alone take a lot of bandwidth)... 



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dobryser on 10 March 2016

@ shika

We agree to disagree.



GamechaserBE on 10 March 2016

So atleast three new halo 5 updates before warfight?



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ice on 10 March 2016

So uhhh I ended up pre-ordering QB, the lady said I was the first one xD

Anyways, since I have Alan Wake and American nightmare (and all dlc) already I'll probably be giving them away somehow in here.



Natsu on 11 March 2016
iceland said:
So uhhh I ended up pre-ordering QB, the lady said I was the first one xD

Anyways, since I have Alan Wake and American nightmare (and all dlc) already I'll probably be giving them away somehow in here.

Bro can I have the alan awake code O.O



ice on 11 March 2016

@ Shika and Natsu

I'm considering doing a little contest thing to make it fair. Might be who is closest in the Meta league for the QB meta. We'll see though.



AsGryffynn on 11 March 2016
Ryuu96 said:
I think the level design on Halo 5 helps it a lot, Genesis and Sanghelios look amazing imo, two of my favorite looking Halo locations across the whole franchise (Halo CEA Flood level up there with them) they done Sanghelios perfectly, was kinda hoping we would see more built up structures, they was a concept art of a huge structure on Sanghelios which looked awesome but they is a civil war going on xD

Makes me want a Halo RPG even more just to explore more of Sanghelios and go to the homeworld of every other species.

Sanghelios literally reminded me of both Xenoblade Chronicles X and Agni's Philosophy. It was gorgeous beyond belief... But besides a Halo RPG, I'd want to see if Fable IV is within 343's capabilities... That or a new IP... I already mentioned their CGI and rendering resembles Square Enix, so they are only a few steps away from doing an RPG that might be able to compete with FF... 

Ryuu96 said:
shikamaru317 said:

One of these days, maybe MS will finally come to the same conclusion that fans came to years ago: We need a Halo RPG. 

It would probably be awkward to do one in the current timeline, to come up with a big enough story that doesn't get in the way of the Halo FPS main story 

However they could do a prequel, with the direction Halo 4 was going in with all the Forerunner lore and the Didact returning a Halo RPG would of fitted in so perfectly between Halo 4 and Halo 5 telling us the story of the Forerunners Vs Ancient Humanity, that way we wouldn't need to read books, stuff wouldn't have to be shoved into a few minute terminals or comic books, we would have a RPG which would tell us (most) of the important history about the Forerunners, Humanity and Flood 

With the direction Halo 5 is going in.....we don't really need that now sadly 

Halo 5 is indeed confusing to anyone who hasn't read the books, but it I liked it and think that an RPG that happens before the Covenant declares war on us sounds better... 

iceland said:

@ Shika and Natsu

I'm considering doing a little contest thing to make it fair. Might be who is closest in the Meta league for the QB meta. We'll see though.

Yay!

Did the same for a Gigantic beta code but no one answered... 



ice on 11 March 2016
Versus_Evil said:
Oh update on Mad Max Shika, Im trading it in today XD it's OK, not as good as RAGE, but it does have far better car combat. I just don't find it that fun. Gonna get something cheap to tie me over till Dark Souls3 and QB.

Damn was considering to buy it... Max is a cutie <3