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sc94597 said:
Dunban67 said:

 

no it realy isn t better

and you will never know how many if any  pedofiles there are that  don t/won t act -     So we only know what can be proved-  Why is this post even asking a question about a group of people we don t even know and can t know for sure exist (pedofiles who have not and will not act on their preference)

So to me, as a practical matter this thread is  about pedofiles that have acted and/or will act  and/or wish to act with less societal and legal consequence- 

We don't know how many exist, but we do know for sure some exist, unless these handful of psychiatrists and journalists are lieing about their interactions with said people. Even by basic logic we know they exist because pedophiles aren't born molesting people. Their first abuse victims happen after some point in their life. 

i agree with your statement



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Here's the problem with pedophilia and why it has not been nor will it ever be accepted like homosexuality.

1. Being a pedophile leads to the possibility of acting out on it. That leads to the second point.

2. Acting out on it involves committing sexual conduct on a child. Unlike an adult, a child is not mentally, physically, or biologically supposed to be doing things like this. This is why a child cannot consent to such a thing. They don't understand what they're doing on the same level the offender does. In most cases, they are reluctant to agree to such an act and do so only because they were always taught to see adults as authoritative figures. In other cases, they're simply forced against their own will to perform the act, which leads to the third problem.

3. If a pedophile cannot abstain from sex, he or she (they're not as common but they are out there) will do what is necessary to get sexual gratification. Rape is sadly a common crime, but it is even more tragic when it happens to children. As adults, we see each other on the same level and have a better chance of avoiding such a confrontation. As kids, the adults are the authoritative figures. Kids are supposed to trust adults. Kids are supposed to do what they're told when an adult tells them to do something. This is how a child is socially wired. At home, they listen to their parents or older siblings. At school, they are told listen to their teachers. Wherever a child is in public, there is somebody they're supposed to be listening to or someone they're supposed to look up to. Having an adult become a sexual predator can completely destroy that sense of trust, which leads to the next thing.

4. Even if a kid is okay with such an act, that doesn't man they'll always be okay with it. Such a relation is known to fuck people up when they get older. Again, all of this happens only if the pedophile cannot restrain their sexual desires. Also, what is the alternative? If a grown adult is attracted only to young children and they HAVE to have some kind of sexual relation, what alternative is there that will not lead to a child being violated? There is none. Their only other option is to seek medical help. That means exposing their fantasies. This is why pedophilia will never be accepted as a norm into society. Even if the pedophile makes valiant efforts to not act on on their fantasies, the possibility always exists. That's why they are feared and it's why they are shunned even if they had not committed any sexual crimes.



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The real question is why can't society see the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia. There is a big difference between being attracted to prepubescent children(asexual) and adolescents (sexual and physically ready for sex).

Being attracted to human that has all the primary and secondary sexual features is not sick, but a normal psychological reaction.



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JazzB1987 said:
Toxy said:


Come on. Rape is bad regardless of whether the person is aware of it or not.
This should not even be a consideration.

'As long as they are not aware of it is okay' is one of the worst things someone could possibly say.
Rape/sexual assault is NEVER okay. It does not matter what age you are, what your sexual orientation, or what your gender is.

Just because someone may be ignorant of the situation, does not make it okay.


Who says that its okay? I just say that society trained us to see it as a super bad thing. And we only see it as that super bad thing when we know about it.

not rape but another example of our "logic".
Why do black people feel angry when whites call them N*****? Because they like to feel angry about that period! (would be worth its own thread imo)
Its also an advantage they have so they can forever and ever make others feel guilty.

A 20 year old white person never did something to a 20 year old black person so why all this nonsense? Why can black people call themselves the N word? (I mean I am not american at all its stupid enough that I am not allowed to write the word here.....arbitrary nonsense rule to protect hypersensitive people)

I mean I would not care if someone would call me something like that. its just a fucking word. If someone would insult me with some random farsi or chinese word I would not even understand therefore wouldnt care. So I just decide to not care even if the word is a word I understand.


Wow. This forum fell off. 

 

Posts like these are the reason I stopped posting here. Blatant support of pedophilia while victim blaming and being clearly racist. Why would you get offended by any insult? Cause when a white person calls a black person a nigger it's an insult when black people use it, we use it as slang and use the term "nigga" rather than "nigger". But to be far you're pretty blatant about how you support racism and pedophiles so not much I can say to persuade you. Disappointed the mods let this shit fly 



Anyone who's acting bewildered or confused as to why people look down upon pedophiles are blatant supports of it in my opinion. It's a common tactic for people to support something under the table without quite saying it.

Pedophiles more than likely will act on their disease r disease rather it be child porn or rape.Pedophiles don't belong in a civilized society period, the same as psychopaths and murderers.



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Kids are filthy, disgusting little wretches and my daughters are no exception, I mean, ugh, if they weren't mine I would hate them so, so much, but my issue is mostly with teen girls and having to pretend they're not hot. I'll refrain from fucking a developing 13 year old girl, fine, part of being an adult is keeping your temptations in check, but why do I have to act like they aren't hot just to appease some ludicrous social more? It wasn't that long ago that a 13 year old girl that wasn't married for three years and working on pushing out her second child was looked at as a hopeless spinster and girls back then weren't developed like the little whores we've got around today.

Gods I'm not looking forward to my girls' teenaged years.



bouzane said:
Dunban67 said:

 

no it realy isn t better

and you will never know how many if any  pedofiles there are that  don t/won t act -     So we only know what can be proved-  Why is this post even asking a question about a group of people we don t even know and can t know for sure exist (pedofiles who have not and will not act on their preference)

So to me, as a practical matter this thread is  about pedofiles that have acted and/or will act  and/or wish to act with less societal and legal consequence- 


Yes, it is better and saying otherwise does not change that fact. We may never know with complete certainty but we can at least gather evidence and develop informed opinions with you know, some basis in reality.

You made an asinine claim and are doing nothing whatsoever to back it up. Provide evidence or I, and likely everybody else in this thread, will rightfully dismiss your frankly ludicrous statements. What you assert without evidence I can dismiss without evidence, that is how logical human beings operate.

Additionally, just because you say a thread is about what you want does not make it so. The OP explicity stated that this thread was about pedophiles who are not child molesters and what you believe is of no importance because you are not the thread creator.

Do you understand how the world doesn't revolve around you and that your decrees aren't simply accepted as facts without scrutiny? Do you understand how you do not single handedly determine what a discussion is about? Do you understand that nobody is interested in discussing anything with an individual who has no interest in actually engaging in constructive dialogue, or pretending to consider other people's points of view, or acknowledge the sources that they provide to validate their claims (again, something that you yourself have failed to do)?

Stop wasting our time because that is all you are accomplishing here. I am done wasting my time on you so you can consider this my final word on the subject.

So to me, as a practical matter this thread is  about pedofiles that have acted and/or will act  and/or wish to act with less societal and legal consequence- 




Daisuke72 said:
Anyone who's acting bewildered or confused as to why people look down upon pedophiles are blatant supports of it in my opinion. It's a common tactic for people to support something under the table without quite saying it.

Pedophiles more than likely will act on their disease r disease rather it be child porn or rape.Pedophiles don't belong in a civilized society period, the same as psychopaths and murderers.


So you are in favor of persecuting people based solely upon their thoughts then?



sundin13 said:
Daisuke72 said:
Anyone who's acting bewildered or confused as to why people look down upon pedophiles are blatant supports of it in my opinion. It's a common tactic for people to support something under the table without quite saying it.

Pedophiles more than likely will act on their disease r disease rather it be child porn or rape.Pedophiles don't belong in a civilized society period, the same as psychopaths and murderers.


So you are in favor of persecuting people based solely upon their thoughts then?

No, not their thoughts. Their sexual preference which they chose for themselves. Sick bastards.

We all watch Fox News. We all know sexuality is a choice.



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Why is this even in discussion. It's(pedophiles) adults forcing someone to do something without consent. Having two young children myself find this discussion horrible and should be locked. I think we as society moving backwards in a lot areas an this thinking now pedophilia is okay is apprehensible and should not be discussed like its normal and okay. No one is born to be sexually attractive to a child that's B.S.
NOT ONE CHILD WANTS TO BE TOUCHED IN THAT EITHER SO NO ONE SHOULD ACT ON IT,