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eva01beserk on 25 May 2015
DJEVOLVE said:
Ka-pi96 said:
DJEVOLVE said:


That's the slippery slope argument and has nothing to do with abortion, so by your logic everything must be done to the extreme and that's just not reality we draw lines in the sand all day lone and a woman has to carry a ZYGOTE, it's up to here, once the kid is born, that's when the line is drawn, we decided this ages ago and abortion wasn't a issue until recent times.

Except then you are the one that is adding a load of dislaimers and exceptions on to what you just said. She has every right to decide its fate... except when this happens, or that happens...

Not only that, she isn't the only one that created it is she? It can't be done alone (except in very very rare cases) so shouldn't the father have some say too, since he also created it?

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Um we draw lines in the sand all the time in life and if you can't understand this.. The man has no right to say anything, this is the problem with your ideals, you think you have some kind of power over woman, you are just the donor, once that happen's you have no role to play. If you think you do, you're living in the past and the future is going to be a rough one for you.

 

She can just as easily go to a sperm clinic. Your sperm does not make  you god over Woman. My fiance just laughed really hard at your post.

Dont think he claimed that. While I do belive the women has the final say, the fathers input cant just be coompletly ignored.



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DonFerrari on 25 May 2015
DJEVOLVE said:
This thread is full of Fanatics, Go join a religious oppressive group and be done with it. I'm out of here. Have fun explaining this to closed minded people who want to control every single aspect of a woman's life. Since you know better than them and want to impose big government to get your way. PEACE! By the way, the percentage of people that want to control woman is a minority and shrinking everyday. In 20 years, you will be but a sliver of industrial nations and thank the fonz for that.

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Munchies on 25 May 2015

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ArchangelMadzz on 25 May 2015
DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


No.. lets not force people to have children they do not want. Especially when all you're doing is preventing a fetus from developing, you're not killing a human being.

Also you're clearly uneducated on abortion if you think it's always just a simple pill.

EDIT: If you think it's ever just a simple pill.

Keep your evaluation of my education of the discussion please...

Simple pill is an over simplification. And you want someone to regulate what is or isn't life, when life begins and etc to say it's acceptable to abort or not?

 

If you had a condom burst, or were drunk and had unprotected sex, go and take a after day pill... else you simply doesn't seem to care much to them demand that you just terminate a fetus.


When I hear drivel such as that then it does come into question, as you obviously have no idea what abortion is like. Please talk to someone who's had one and they will tell you how much of a wonderful experience it was.. or may describe it as one of the most traumatic experiences of their life but I guess it varies from person to person..

The day after pill doesn't always work and you may not always know. Couples can use protection (hell my sister got pregnant on the pill) and still get pregnant. Why should someone entire life be disrupted by a mistake that can be ammended that doesn't harm a human being?(other than the mother)

No I'm not allowing someone to regulate what is or isn't life, Science, you know, hat thing you're using right now, tells you that it is not human life until it can survive as an independant being on it's own. Which is why after 24 weeks an abortion is NOT allowed because it is human. 



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SanAndreasX on 25 May 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
 

No right to say anything? You what now? Do you think humans should be like bugs and the woman should just kill the man after she gets pregnant or something?

It's still his child, whether she likes it or not. I'm not saying he should be able to tie her up until she has the baby to prevent her from aborting it or anything crazy like that, but he should definitely still have a say.


Let's look at the investment here of each party, shall we?

The woman is obligated to give up her internal organs for 9 months to grow this baby. She assumes ALL the risks/discomforts involved.

The man's biological involvement lasts from the time he sticks his penis in until the time he splooges. That's all of 5-25 minutes. He has minimal risk and discomfort involved.

That is why the man doesn't have a say.



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DonFerrari on 25 May 2015
Mr_No said:
I'm against abortion mainly because there are many instances where the pregnant woman could've used protection or any other contraceptive method, which there are lots of them. There is no excuse. I'm against abortion on frivolous situations like the infamous case where a woman aborted her unborn son just because he was a boy. I do agree that women have the right to do with their body whatever they want, but that doesn't make it any right.

However, if a woman has a health complication due to the pregnancy, an abortion would be pretty reasonable. Apart from that, I'm pro-life.


When it endangers the woman life and you accept the abortion you are still pro-life, the life of the mother, because if she dies there will be 0 life at the end.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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DJEVOLVE on 25 May 2015
eva01beserk said:
DJEVOLVE said:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!

Um we draw lines in the sand all the time in life and if you can't understand this.. The man has no right to say anything, this is the problem with your ideals, you think you have some kind of power over woman, you are just the donor, once that happen's you have no role to play. If you think you do, you're living in the past and the future is going to be a rough one for you.

 

She can just as easily go to a sperm clinic. Your sperm does not make  you god over Woman. My fiance just laughed really hard at your post.

Dont think he claimed that. While I do belive the women has the final say, the fathers input cant just be coompletly ignored.

Yes the mother is the host, the father has no say after this.

However this has turned pathetic.

My only question is why all these big government life people hate Woman?



ArchangelMadzz on 25 May 2015
DonFerrari said:
Toxy said:
Just so people understand:
Using protection is not 100% fool proof. You can use protection and still impregnate/become pregnant.

Both parties may not be ready to have a child, and may not want to put the child up for adoption, as going through 9 months of pregnancy can be a major toll on someone's life as it can interrupt their career, education etc.

Also in the earlier stages of pregnancy, it has been scientifically proven that it is not a baby, or human for that matter. It is simply a bunch of cells. It is no different to ejaculating into a sock or towel. "Your sperm could have created life, but you have ripped it of producing life". You see where I am going with this?

People should have the choice to have children, or put them up for adoption if they so choose.

To force someone to be a parent who is not prepared, does not have the finances to do so - to this I would say would be irresponsible.

Those who decide they want to give the baby up for adoption will do so.
Those who decide they want children will do so.

Also if someone is raped, they should not have to deal with a constant reminder about it for 9 months just so they can donate their rape baby to someone else. I do not know why this is even an argument.

The human race is not on the brink of destruction, there is no need for such a strong emphasis on the need to breed.

Honestly, I believe abortions or adoptions for that matter should happen more often. The amount of neglectful parents there are, leading to their children to becoming psychotic, depressed, or any other mental illness that may be involved is harmful to society.

Killing a bunch of cells is not harmful to society. The ova is essentially cells and so is semen. When you put the two together, it takes a long time before they amount to anything more than cells.
Ejaculating into a condom is essentially an abortion because you did not give that sperm the chance at life and so forth.


grow ups is a bunch of cell as well... and cientists haven't even much knowledge about human brain, much less "proven" when life begins... if an unicelular being can be called a life why do you want to quantify how many cells a baby needs to be called life?

A single selled organism is life being it does everything a living being is categorised to do. 

Something that cannot be ascribed to a fetus. 



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Moren on 25 May 2015

I'm very pro-abortion. I think that people should have a choice to say on the matter and no one should get on the way.
Also, it is sad that a bunch of old men are the ones who normally have a say on those kind of things.



DJEVOLVE on 25 May 2015
DonFerrari said:
DJEVOLVE said:
This thread is full of Fanatics, Go join a religious oppressive group and be done with it. I'm out of here. Have fun explaining this to closed minded people who want to control every single aspect of a woman's life. Since you know better than them and want to impose big government to get your way. PEACE! By the way, the percentage of people that want to control woman is a minority and shrinking everyday. In 20 years, you will be but a sliver of industrial nations and thank the fonz for that.

Promise you vgchartz won't miss you greatly.


What are you going to do? Impose your will on me?

I have been here a lot longer than you, I'm just not coming into this thread after i respond to your obvious misunderstanding of my intentions.  After this thread and your opions, % show you will be less missed than i am and if woman where on this site,  the numbers go that much more against you. So you're the minority opionion, i'm that of the majority. Welcome to the future.