You people can't use that argument and then use it with Wii Sports and then with Wii Sports Resort...

Easily no.

Mario Kart Wii was bundled with the console and I doubt Sony would stick with one bundle for long.
There will always be a remodeled PS4 with a different or no game included.

As for a PS4 exclusive game simply selling those kinds of numbers? Also an easy no.

He is right tho.

Nintendo bundles their games for years with the consoles, look at the Wii U with Mario U.

Easiest way to bloat numbers.

If GTA VI ends up being a PS4 exclusive then yes, it's possible.

You mean against Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort?

Anyway, I personally think bundled for free sales "don't count" because the consumer didn't spend money on the game (so, how can that count as a sale?). It's why I hate when people say Wii Sports is one of the "best selling games of all time" when it didn't sell a single copy (whether 80M people bought a Wii just for Wii Sports is another argument, but at the end of the day, the only way to even get Wii Sports was to purchase a Wii console, and you got that game whether you wanted it or not at no extra cost). I'd count the bundle sales for Destiny or Infamous: SS (because you still paid for those games), for example, but I wouldn't count them for Titanfall or TLOU:R.

However, the premise of this thread is based on a game that was heavily bundled, for an extended period to boot. Hell, it's still bundled to this day. So, I just used the same criteria to come to my conclusion. Since Sony said TLOU will come with every PS4, instead of being temporary, and the thread is based on a game that sold 35M due to bundles, then I think it's a fair comparison. TLOU may even pass Wii Sports. I won't acknowledge that TLOU "sold" 80M+, if it gets to that point, but if we're gonna compare heavily bundled games, then including TLOU in the conversation is par for the course

I failed to see the correlation between them.  Assuming NX is a console, doesn't neccesarily mean it will affect ps4 sales.  It too early to tell but for now it's reasonable to expect that ps4 will outsell Wii because the curve of sales between a ps consoles and a nintendo console is very different and this time around the competition is much weaker than last gen.  Also ps4 is way ahead of ps3.

Now that I think, is funny how people are always talking about the NX coming next year and all that bs, but at the same time, when they predict ps4 sales, they don´t think on NX as competence. Oh boy, it is, you better believe.

Should just clarify, the reverse of this shit is posted in Nintendo forums constantly.

And op chose to post this in the Gaming Forum.

And you know this how?

Also we can't used bundle sales to cover wii sports, wii sports resorts,nsmb, mk wii, wii fit, super Mario galaxy etc I mean c'Mon do the maths