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Giggs_11 said:
BMaker11 said:
If TLOU:R stays bundled with the PS4 for free as long as MKWii stayed bundled with the Wii for free, then TLOU:R, if you count that as exclusive.


You people can't use that argument and then use it with Wii Sports and then with Wii Sports Resort...

You mean against Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort?

Anyway, I personally think bundled for free sales "don't count" because the consumer didn't spend money on the game (so, how can that count as a sale?). It's why I hate when people say Wii Sports is one of the "best selling games of all time" when it didn't sell a single copy (whether 80M people bought a Wii just for Wii Sports is another argument, but at the end of the day, the only way to even get Wii Sports was to purchase a Wii console, and you got that game whether you wanted it or not at no extra cost). I'd count the bundle sales for Destiny or Infamous: SS (because you still paid for those games), for example, but I wouldn't count them for Titanfall or TLOU:R.

However, the premise of this thread is based on a game that was heavily bundled, for an extended period to boot. Hell, it's still bundled to this day. So, I just used the same criteria to come to my conclusion. Since Sony said TLOU will come with every PS4, instead of being temporary, and the thread is based on a game that sold 35M due to bundles, then I think it's a fair comparison. TLOU may even pass Wii Sports. I won't acknowledge that TLOU "sold" 80M+, if it gets to that point, but if we're gonna compare heavily bundled games, then including TLOU in the conversation is par for the course