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Platina on 10 May 2015

I think there post plans are good, though it would be nice to have some of those features for day 1 (namely, custom matchmaking)

As for me, still not completely sold, but I probably will get this game eventually



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DerNebel on 10 May 2015
sc94597 said:
Einsam_Delphin said:


It's the guy you quoted's problem which you were trying to say isn't a problem because it's not actually at that price even though it is.

His profile says he's from Germany. 

I didn't go and check Amazon.de before making the post, so I didn't know it was cheaper here, which is good, but it simply doesn't change the fact that for large parts of Wii U owners this is being sold for $60.



Samus Aran on 10 May 2015
DerNebel said:
Samus Aran said:
DerNebel said:
The idea to support the game post launch is good, but the fact that this launches with 5 maps and basically only TDM as an online mode (I think, I watched the direct on friday but forgot that part) is ridculously low for a game that's supposed to focus on online, it's like you can buy this as a $60 game now but it really won't be a $60 game until August.

Will be interesting to see how reviewers react to this.

Don't comment on games you know nothing about.

Again, the game is €30-40.

Kinda aggressive aren't ya? So it's Turf War, doesn't change that it's one game mode that's unlocked from the start, which is ridiculously low for the $60 that it is sold for in the US, but I guess you have to jump to defend Nintendo here, even going as far as to draw completely pointless comparisons to The Order.

A new mode, Splatzone will be unlocked after a day or two...

The dlc is free, what don't you get about that?



Lonely_Dolphin on 10 May 2015
flagstaad said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

Splatoon should not be bought without online access, so I don't see how that's a problem or even changes anything really.

I don't have a hard drive and I don't plan to buy one, limited space to add DLC or updates on the Wii U memory, if this game is mostly DLC (only 5 maps on disc and 9 more as DLC?), I will not buy as simple as that. They could wait 1 more month, add more content to the disc and still support the game with some less DLC afterwards. Not worth the money they are asking for, I will re-evaluate if the campaign receives good reviews.


32gbs is more than enough...



JNK on 10 May 2015
flagstaad said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

Splatoon should not be bought without online access, so I don't see how that's a problem or even changes anything really.

I don't have a hard drive and I don't plan to buy one, limited space to add DLC or updates on the Wii U memory, if this game is mostly DLC (only 5 maps on disc and 9 more as DLC?), I will not buy as simple as that. They could wait 1 more month, add more content to the disc and still support the game with some less DLC afterwards. Not worth the money they are asking for, I will re-evaluate if the campaign receives good reviews.

 

i doubt the dlcs will be to big. 

Nintendo is bringen a splatoon + white wii u (8gb) bundle in some countries. So i doubt they plan on bringin 5gb dlcs.

Maybe they added already the textures and co from the upcoming maps onto the disc and the dlcs will be just some mb - who knows. The complete game is 1,6gb which is pretty small anyway.



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Lonely_Dolphin on 10 May 2015
DerNebel said:
Einsam_Delphin said:
DerNebel said:
The idea to support the game post launch is good, but the fact that this launches with 5 maps and basically only TDM as an online mode (I think, I watched the direct on friday but forgot that part) is ridculously low for a game that's supposed to focus on online, it's like you can buy this as a $60 game now but it really won't be a $60 game until August.

Will be interesting to see how reviewers react to this.


There is no TDM, Turf War is about covering the map the most with your team color. Ranked Battles n Splatzone shoud be unlocked within the first week, and there's the singleplayer campaign and the 1v1 local multiplayer, so already more gameplay variety than MK8.

Yeah my mistake. But MK8 is a racing game, those live of their tracks of which MK8 has a lot. I stand by what I said, in August the game's full price (at least in NA) will be justified, at the end of May it won't be. I'm not even going to touch on the Amiibo exclusive missions.

MK8 was constantly criticised for it's lack of content (32 tracks is no dif from past 3 games) and variety, yet still pulled an 88 on metacritic be my point there. Sure you can stand by it, but what you said still doesn't mean much as it's not like you wont have all that content by August if you buy day one.



DerNebel on 10 May 2015
Einsam_Delphin said:
DerNebel said:

Kinda aggressive aren't ya? So it's Turf War, doesn't change that it's one game mode that's unlocked from the start, which is ridiculously low for the $60 that it is sold for in the US, but I guess you have to jump to defend Nintendo here, even going as far as to draw completely pointless comparisons to The Order.


Even ignoring the other content I brought up for some reason, you can't just ignore the fact that the game will frequently recieve new content that, because it's free, can be considered part of the main package.

I already said that it's good that it's going to receive extra content, but I simply don't see how that changes the fact that that "main package" won't be fully delivered until August, so it can very well be criticised for that.

Imo post launch extra content should be there to add value above the $60 content that already came with the base game when you bought it at launch, not to deliver the $60 value you expected at launch.



flagstaad on 10 May 2015
JNK said:

i doubt the dlcs will be to big. 

Nintendo is bringen a splatoon + white wii u (8gb) bundle in some countries. So i doubt they plan on bringin 5gb dlcs.

Maybe they added already the textures and co from the upcoming maps onto the disc and the dlcs will be just some mb - who knows. The complete game is 1,6gb which is pretty small anyway.

I also think the DLC could be "small", but including the maps, the new modes, the updates and others, it could easily reach 1 GB, and taking into account that I have only 18GB free of my memory for the rest of the console life, I would prefer if they delayed the game for 1 month add part of that DLC to the disc and make the requirement less demanding. When you have such a limited resource and you are leaving de game disc almost empty is better to add the most possible content to the disc and available from day 1.

I think the lack of content will hurt the ratings and deservingly so. Remember... "a delayed game is eventually good but a rushed game is forever bad"



DerNebel on 10 May 2015
Einsam_Delphin said:
DerNebel said:

Yeah my mistake. But MK8 is a racing game, those live of their tracks of which MK8 has a lot. I stand by what I said, in August the game's full price (at least in NA) will be justified, at the end of May it won't be. I'm not even going to touch on the Amiibo exclusive missions.

MK8 was constantly criticised for it's lack of content (32 tracks is no dif from past 3 games) and variety, yet still pulled an 88 on metacritic be my point there. Sure you can stand by it, but what you said still doesn't mean much as it's not like you wont have all that content by August if you buy day one.

There's a difference between 32 tracks and 5 maps, if Splatoon manages to get even close to an 88 then I'll be extremely surprised.



Lonely_Dolphin on 10 May 2015
DerNebel said:
Einsam_Delphin said:
DerNebel said:

Kinda aggressive aren't ya? So it's Turf War, doesn't change that it's one game mode that's unlocked from the start, which is ridiculously low for the $60 that it is sold for in the US, but I guess you have to jump to defend Nintendo here, even going as far as to draw completely pointless comparisons to The Order.


Even ignoring the other content I brought up for some reason, you can't just ignore the fact that the game will frequently recieve new content that, because it's free, can be considered part of the main package.

I already said that it's good that it's going to receive extra content, but I simply don't see how that changes the fact that that "main package" won't be fully delivered until August, so it can very well be criticised for that.

Imo post launch extra content should be there to add value above the $60 content that already came with the base game when you bought it at launch, not to deliver the $60 value you expected at launch.


It can but it'd be kinda silly to do so since no one's forcing you to buy the game day one.

Except everything Nintendo's shown up to the latest direct will be there day 1 except Splat Zones which they said wouldn't be, so not sure where you're getting these expectations from.