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haxxiy said:

I've read it seems like the 380 will be Tonga chips, and the 390 Hawaii again. A bit underwhelming, specially next to the fake leaked specs from mid 2014, but I guess you can only go so far with 28 nm. Fiji is going to be a high-end brand which will either be called 395, or a whole new series, equivalent of a Nvidia Titan. So, if I were to guess...

R9 380 = Tonga PRO
R9 380X = Tonga XT
R9 390 = Hawaii XT
R9 390X = Hawaii XTX?
R9 new brand = Fiji?

You mean this list, right?

I also find it odd, only 20 numbers to fit 4 cards. At least they list the Fiji cards as 8GB cards, because some sites today are suggesting that they'll be 4GB. The Tech Report did a podcast and talked about Fiji with David Kanter, who apparently has seen the actual cards and he seemed to suggest that they will be 8GB. Unfortunately, they didn't talk about the rebranding stuff.

 

Mummelmann said:
Need more news and an actual release date; I need to build my rig NOW!

Have you decide the rest of the parts already? Do you know which monitor will you get?



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JEMC said:
 

You mean this list, right?

I also find it odd, only 20 numbers to fit 4 cards. At least they list the Fiji cards as 8GB cards, because some sites today are suggesting that they'll be 4GB. The Tech Report did a podcast and talked about Fiji with David Kanter, who apparently has seen the actual cards and he seemed to suggest that they will be 8GB. Unfortunately, they didn't talk about the rebranding stuff.

 

I'm seeing it now, I had only read the article WCC Tech released today. I think it'll be something like that, not exactly like that, but yeah. Mostly because there's no way AMD will release an 8GB GDDR5 card, that alone would be +40W TDP over their already hot designs, not to mention the size of the GPU.

Maybe the R9 380s will be 4GB, same as Fiji with HBM? Except there could be also a dual Fiji with 8GB, whcih it may be what Mr. Kanter (had to check who is  this MF haha) was talking about.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
JEMC said:

You mean this list, right?

*list*

I also find it odd, only 20 numbers to fit 4 cards. At least they list the Fiji cards as 8GB cards, because some sites today are suggesting that they'll be 4GB. The Tech Report did a podcast and talked about Fiji with David Kanter, who apparently has seen the actual cards and he seemed to suggest that they will be 8GB. Unfortunately, they didn't talk about the rebranding stuff.

I'm seeing it now, I had only read the article WCC Tech released today. I think it'll be something like that, not exactly like that, but yeah. Mostly because there's no way AMD will release an 8GB GDDR5 card, that alone would be +40W TDP over their already hot designs, not to mention the size of the GPU.

Maybe the R9 380s will be 4GB, same as Fiji with HBM? Except there could be also a dual Fiji with 8GB, whcih it may be what Mr. Kanter (had to check who is  this MF haha) was talking about.

Believe it or not, there are already 290X cards with 8GB of GDDR5.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-vapor-x-r9-290x-8gb,3977.html

And they don't use much more power (note that the review was comparing a reference 290X with the overclocked 8GB variant).

But what that shed tells me, however, is that AMD would be crazy to launch a top end card with less memory than a mid-range one. It makes no sense.



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

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You dont need more than 4GB on your gpu for any game Im aware off, thats played in 1080p up to 1440x res.



JEMC said:

Believe it or not, there are already 290X cards with 8GB of GDDR5.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-vapor-x-r9-290x-8gb,3977.html

And they don't use much more power (note that the review was comparing a reference 290X with the overclocked 8GB variant).

But what that shed tells me, however, is that AMD would be crazy to launch a top end card with less memory than a mid-range one. It makes no sense.

the vram size importance is overstated, HBM has tremendously higher bandwith than GDDR ram, meaning that lots of files that are better kept inside the GDDR ram could easily be deleted/overwritten in HBM and loaded into it when needed instead

additionally with GDDR you need bigger ram sizes to increase bandwith



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JEMC: I think I'll go with a Samsung S32D850D for my rig, a nice a good-sized 1440p screen at a fair price.

An i7-5820K and 16GB of fast DDR4 RAM will add fuel to the fire along with a top-of the line GPU.



JRPGfan said:
You dont need more than 4GB on your gpu for any game Im aware off, thats played in 1080p up to 1440x res.

Middle Earth:Shadows of Mordor asked for 6GB to enable Ultra textures, be at 1080p or higher.

There is also Watchdogs (although that game is a mess) and Dying Light asks for more than 4GB at 1440p

And the higher amount of AA that you use, the more VRAM you need



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Lafiel said:
JEMC said:

Believe it or not, there are already 290X cards with 8GB of GDDR5.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-vapor-x-r9-290x-8gb,3977.html

And they don't use much more power (note that the review was comparing a reference 290X with the overclocked 8GB variant).

But what that shed tells me, however, is that AMD would be crazy to launch a top end card with less memory than a mid-range one. It makes no sense.

the vram size importance is overstated, HBM has tremendously higher bandwith than GDDR ram, meaning that lots of files that are better kept inside the GDDR ram could easily be deleted/overwritten in HBM and loaded into it when needed instead

additionally with GDDR you need bigger ram sizes to increase bandwith

Yes, but if you delete the files from the VRAM and then need them again, having to load them again from your HDD/SSD is a lot slower. That's the point of having more VRAM, right? To load as much info as possible into the GPU to avoid having to load it from the "slow" system.

 

@Mummelmann: Good choices



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Go AMD! Hype Hype Hype



                  

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Tons of info in the OP is wrong.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

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