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Forums - Nintendo - Nintendo results. Shipments: WiiU 340k, 3DS 1.65m, Wii 80k. $350m profit for full year.

zordon2015 said:
Sony still cant make any money with the AMAZING Ps4 but the wii u stiils makes nintendo aPROFIT U CAN SPin it all you want the truth is the TRUTH

Unlike Nintendo, Sony had big costs with commercial deals. Just look at how they advertise in Europe. They play the fake exclusive card all the time with great success.

Sony profits should grow in time though.



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Tlozjb said:
Dunban67 said:


I agree-  it would

I also wonder which expenses Nintendo has cut and how much to shrink the company/overhead enough to be losing less money/making a small profit now-  seeing how they werre losing alot more money in previous years with higher sales

Well we would first have to see what caused the losses in the first place, in 2011 it was the huge price drop of the 3DS, in 2012-2013 was caused by Wii U being sold at a loss, not only that but by what I have read Nintendo was also using a lot of money on warehouses for all those Wii Us, and along that Nintendo was also getting plagued with lawsuits, one which was lost and caused to give like 3 dollars per 3DS sold. 

Now that is majorly gone, the 3DS is no longer sold at loss, the New 3DS using a different 3D technology doesn't need to pay those royalties, the Wii U being sold still seem to be leftover from the original order(as seen by the supposly discontinued basic pack still existing in Europe) so  no production for it to bring losses, the higher ups took a temporary salary cut, and as shown by amiibo, Nintendo has pushed back how much it produces to fill up warehouses, so all of those expenses have been lowered.  Last year, Nintendo also constructed some buildings and bought a mysterious tech company, so that contributed to their loss.

Though now all of that is out of the way, the majority of what is gained stays, and now with some extra income(compared to past years)from things like the MK8 DLC, amiibo, faceplates, 3DS chargers because of New 3DS, Hyrule Warriors DLC, etc.  

But this quarter will be interesting, since advertizing expense must be up by A LOT


Now that the numbers are out i did check for the year and their biggest expense decline is in cost of goods sold and advertising (for the fiscal year- i did not look for the latest quarter) compared to the previous fiscal year-   they are forcasting similar COGS expenses and advertising for next year along with the same+/- number of Wii U s sold and less 3DS units sold  (I can t remember their software sales forcast )

something that would be interesting to know would be how they acount for expense toward making games (both 1st and 2nd party)   I would imagine their is alot of flexibility re how those expenses are accounted for-    I wonder f 2nd party games can be off the books until they are released or just booked as accounts payable-    my guess is that they are able to massage the numbers year to year - 

I think they will struggle to make an operating profit next year though-  I think it will be hard to reach 3.4 million Wii U s sold for this fiscal year and even they are forcasting lower 3DS sales-     I think they may only have 1 mobile game releases this fiscal year -but i m not 100% sure-  but I dought it will be more tan 2 at best and the game(s) will prob be released much later in the year



DonFerrari said:
Highlights.

Missed low target
ps4 shipments > WiiU + 3DS with spare
WiiU overtracked. Seems like ps4 hitted 50% marketshare then.

And about all the doom. We are hearing it for Sony over 7 years só don't complain about we discussing Nintendo bad hw sales.


Nintendo has been doomee since 1889 though, no comparison^ :)



tbone51 said:
DonFerrari said:
Highlights.

Missed low target
ps4 shipments > WiiU + 3DS with spare
WiiU overtracked. Seems like ps4 hitted 50% marketshare then.

And about all the doom. We are hearing it for Sony over 7 years só don't complain about we discussing Nintendo bad hw sales.


Nintendo has been doomee since 1889 though, no comparison^ :)


Well... on that no one can fight them... thank god I preffer the two doomed companies than the companie that will throw billions in gaming just to outsell Sony.

Probably next year I'll get the family the WiiU, hope to find a lot of good priced fantastic games.



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Soundwave said:
Nintendo is only forecasting 7.6 mill 3DS shipments and 3.4 mill Wii U shipments for the next year. 3DS is really fizzling out.

This is why I believe that the NX is going to be a handheld.

Nintendo must also have something fairly big planned for the Wii U that we do not yet know about to be keeping their 2015 projections at 3.4 Million.  Either a price cut or a holiday title that's big enough to replicate the success of MK8 or Smash(?)



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If the fall in shipments for 3DS is reason to expect a new handheld, than what do you think will happen to Wii U beggining April 16, when there's Zelda as a system seller to sell the console?

Consoles have been replaced with higher shipment figures - or close.
If Nintendo can't reach 3.6M units shipped with MK8, Smash, Hyrule Warriors and other games, than i don't want to see by how much Nintendo will fail the 3.4M figure without a system seller.