How is this approach terrible for gamers, I certainly enjoyed the plethora of third party titles available on Playstation and Xbox? Additionally, I fail to see how the relatively open environment the Playstation and Xbox have provided third parties has been the source of any major issues. Most problems being experienced by third party developers can be attributed to other causes such as the graphics arms race and the resultant bloated budgets. Do you have any examples of third parties struggling due to Sony's / Microsoft's lack of oversight and regulation? Furthermore, how on Earth can you justify your statement that Sony and MS have the worst approach to third party relations when Nintendo is clearly doing the worst? Finally, how is the Sony / MS approach unsustainable?

Nintendo doesnt have the worst approach, you are again misunderstanding the subject. I'm not talking about support, I'm talking about efficiency.

Sony and MS made 3rd parties think they should charge money to develop a game instead of developing a game to make money.

What are you talking about, please be more specific? I take it from this vague comment that you mean developers should just deliver a finished product and move onto the next instead of supporting a game for years with patches and DLC (excuse me if I misinterpreted your comment, again, it's vague)? If this is what you are implying then you are wrong. The approach that third parties have taken toward PC, Xbox and Playstation development has certainly enriched the experiences that they provide and I am grateful for it. I can not imagine games like Deus Ex Human Revolution if they released on WiiU at the same time as the other versions but without the option to patch in additional content.

No, that's not what I meant, although I agree with that. To put it simple, third parties are the ones dependant of home consoles. sony and ms made them think it's the other way around. Now 3rd parties might even charge money from first parties before making their games, instead of making their games to get money, causing the current gaming market to be in a bribe war. and that's without entering the details of game content.

Sharu said:
In my opinion, even WITH the Playstation 4 success industry will be in a deep crysis soon.

But what is killing the industry again is the big 3rd party giving us buggy and incomplete games full price. 

At least they have relationships with third party developers. What is so wrong with their approaches when it has worked so well for them traditionally, and by traditionally I mean for over a decade (two in Sony's case)? I know they are overly permissive of unfinished and broken games but Nintendo hasn't exactly been perfect allowing some laughable garbage to release with the Nintendo Seal of Quality emblazoned upon them. Let me put it this way, the PS2 sold more third party software than every Nintendo home console combined and the PS4 looks like it will easily settle into second place. What am I failing to understand here and what is so unsustainable about Sony's / Microsoft's approach?

How is this approach terrible for gamers, I certainly enjoyed the plethora of third party titles available on Playstation and Xbox? Additionally, I fail to see how the relatively open environment the Playstation and Xbox have provided third parties has been the source of any major issues. Most problems being experienced by third party developers can be attributed to other causes such as the graphics arms race and the resultant bloated budgets. Do you have any examples of third parties struggling due to Sony's / Microsoft's lack of oversight and regulation? Furthermore, how on Earth can you justify your statement that Sony and MS have the worst approach to third party relations when Nintendo is clearly doing the worst? Finally, how is the Sony / MS approach unsustainable?

Thats fine, but to admit the popularity level was on par is utterly ludicrous. Metal Gear had the chance to be as big as it was because Kojima switched to CD's instead of using cartridges just like Final Fantasy did. Thats why companies switched to Sony. Less stringent, larger base and in the beginning actually invested into formats if they were partners.

Google would show up buy out Nintendo and Xbox  and create a 100% realistic world where you would be in a virtual world where you can smell touch feel taste (everything but pain) in a game and would sell billions turning half the world into bed riden zombies never wanting to leave the magical world their experiencing.