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curl-6 on 05 April 2015
NoirSon said:
curl-6 said:

Wii U's third party support lasted a year, not 6 months. And the best games on both systems are the first party ones.

Ultimately, to  me, a system is a means to play games. It's the games that matter most, and even at this stage in its life, Wii U has Gamecube beat in my view. The addition of future games like Splatoon, Yoshi's Woolly World, and Xenoblade Chronicles X will only widen the gap.

Hmm, we have to disagree then.

While I do now remember you are right, the Wii U got solid 3rd party support until after the 2013 holiday season, I think while as always Nintendo put out the best games, some of the best titles on the GC like Phantasy Star Online Episodes 1&2, Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil 4 (and the REmake), Tales of Symphonia, Ikaruga and the two Baten Kaitos games were among the best the system had to offer and of the top games of that console generation. Special games such as those are what help make a console enjoyable and while Nintendo will no doubt have its own special games to elevate the Wii U, that lack of titles such as those hurt it, much like the barren last years of the Wii's life.

There were a few third party developed gems on Gamecube, true, but that holds true for Wii U as well, with games like Bayonetta 2 and Rayman Legends.



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NoirSon on 05 April 2015
curl-6 said:
NoirSon said:

Hmm, we have to disagree then.

While I do now remember you are right, the Wii U got solid 3rd party support until after the 2013 holiday season, I think while as always Nintendo put out the best games, some of the best titles on the GC like Phantasy Star Online Episodes 1&2, Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil 4 (and the REmake), Tales of Symphonia, Ikaruga and the two Baten Kaitos games were among the best the system had to offer and of the top games of that console generation. Special games such as those are what help make a console enjoyable and while Nintendo will no doubt have its own special games to elevate the Wii U, that lack of titles such as those hurt it, much like the barren last years of the Wii's life.

There were a few third party developed gems on Gamecube, true, but that holds true for Wii U as well, with games like Bayonetta 2 and Rayman Legends.

Bayonetta 2 is technically a Nintendo published game and one they also helped in development of, so like Goldeneye 007 on the N64, you can't really count that as third party since its published by Nintendo in every major territory.  Rayman Legends is a very good game but neither it or Zombi U are exactly hitting anything besides cult classic at best. RE4 and Tales of Symphonia are widely held as classic titles that also went on to define or redefine later installments in those franchises.



curl-6 on 05 April 2015
NoirSon said:
curl-6 said:
NoirSon said:

Hmm, we have to disagree then.

While I do now remember you are right, the Wii U got solid 3rd party support until after the 2013 holiday season, I think while as always Nintendo put out the best games, some of the best titles on the GC like Phantasy Star Online Episodes 1&2, Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil 4 (and the REmake), Tales of Symphonia, Ikaruga and the two Baten Kaitos games were among the best the system had to offer and of the top games of that console generation. Special games such as those are what help make a console enjoyable and while Nintendo will no doubt have its own special games to elevate the Wii U, that lack of titles such as those hurt it, much like the barren last years of the Wii's life.

There were a few third party developed gems on Gamecube, true, but that holds true for Wii U as well, with games like Bayonetta 2 and Rayman Legends.

Bayonetta 2 is technically a Nintendo published game and one they also helped in development of, so like Goldeneye 007 on the N64, you can't really count that as third party since its published by Nintendo in every major territory.  Rayman Legends is a very good game but neither it or Zombi U are exactly hitting anything besides cult classic at best. RE4 and Tales of Symphonia are widely held as classic titles that also went on to define or redefine later installments in those franchises.

Bayo 2 may have been funded by Nintendo, but it was developed by a third party entity. And if we're going to cover multiplats, Wii U also had Batman Arkham City, Mass Effect 3, Bayonetta 1, Deus Ex Human Revolution, COD Black Ops II...



Cloudman on 05 April 2015

Handhelds: The 4DS. You can play games with your mind, this ending the mobile menace. Thank you Nintendo... : )
Wii U: The Ultra Nintendo. Ninten drops the gimmicks, makes the system everyone wants, gets the best of both 1st and 3rd parties, and dominates the competition, thus starting the Nintendo Empire, and the PS/XB rebel forces join together to stop the evil empire..



 

              

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NoirSon on 05 April 2015
curl-6 said:
NoirSon said:
curl-6 said:
NoirSon said:

Hmm, we have to disagree then.

While I do now remember you are right, the Wii U got solid 3rd party support until after the 2013 holiday season, I think while as always Nintendo put out the best games, some of the best titles on the GC like Phantasy Star Online Episodes 1&2, Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil 4 (and the REmake), Tales of Symphonia, Ikaruga and the two Baten Kaitos games were among the best the system had to offer and of the top games of that console generation. Special games such as those are what help make a console enjoyable and while Nintendo will no doubt have its own special games to elevate the Wii U, that lack of titles such as those hurt it, much like the barren last years of the Wii's life.

There were a few third party developed gems on Gamecube, true, but that holds true for Wii U as well, with games like Bayonetta 2 and Rayman Legends.

Bayonetta 2 is technically a Nintendo published game and one they also helped in development of, so like Goldeneye 007 on the N64, you can't really count that as third party since its published by Nintendo in every major territory.  Rayman Legends is a very good game but neither it or Zombi U are exactly hitting anything besides cult classic at best. RE4 and Tales of Symphonia are widely held as classic titles that also went on to define or redefine later installments in those franchises.

Bayo 2 may have been funded by Nintendo, but it was developed by a third party entity. And if we're going to cover multiplats, Wii U also had Batman Arkham City, Mass Effect 3, Bayonetta 1, Deus Ex Human Revolution, COD Black Ops II...

Aside from Black Ops II, all those are really late ports. The shorts time frame is about 6 months for Mass Effect 3, which was neutered because EA announced on the other platforms they were putting out the complete trilogy for the same price at around the same time.

I would say among the 3rd party titles not named Just Dance, the only one you could add to that list is Assassin's Creed IV as far as near classic game released on the Wii U that was multiplatform. AC III while released during the launch window wasn't that great of a game anyway. Although aside from Phantasy Star Online and Ikaruga which were originally on Dreamcast, all the ones I mentioned were built from the ground up on the GC and later ported. Only Rayman Legends and I disagree but will give you Bayonetta 2 can stake the same claim. 



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curl-6 on 05 April 2015
NoirSon said:
curl-6 said:

Bayo 2 may have been funded by Nintendo, but it was developed by a third party entity. And if we're going to cover multiplats, Wii U also had Batman Arkham City, Mass Effect 3, Bayonetta 1, Deus Ex Human Revolution, COD Black Ops II...

Aside from Black Ops II, all those are really late ports. The shorts time frame is about 6 months for Mass Effect 3, which was neutered because EA announced on the other platforms they were putting out the complete trilogy for the same price at around the same time.

I would say among the 3rd party titles not named Just Dance, the only one you could add to that list is Assassin's Creed IV as far as near classic game released on the Wii U that was multiplatform. AC III while released during the launch window wasn't that great of a game anyway. Although aside from Phantasy Star Online and Ikaruga which were originally on Dreamcast, all the ones I mentioned were built from the ground up on the GC and later ported. Only Rayman Legends and I disagree but will give you Bayonetta 2 can stake the same claim. 

But it's not as though the only good games on Wii U are first party. Most of them, yes, but I'd contend that's the case for every Nintendo console since the N64. 

GCN did have better third party support than Wii U, but I reckon Wii U wins comfortably for first party, and the latter is more important in my view, as that's the primary draw of Nintendo systems, the first party exclusives.