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Captain_Yuri said:

People should really stop jumping to conclusions... No where does it say that they wont be showing any games for 2016... This continues to fit with my theory that the nx will be a handheld because they will be showing off a few more games for the wiiu this e3 for 2016 which will be releasing next year and it will keep the console people happy while releasing the NX handheld to make the handheld people happy. Next year should be wiius last year in terms of games and then in 2017, their console will be shown and will either launch in holiday 2017 or spring 2018

It is their typical "let the game releases die down strategy" that they do almost every gen. 

See this is why Nintendo needs a Direct.  Until there's some other news, hopefully with release dates for games, there will be no end to these speculations.  They need to stabilize the situation.



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Highlighting a specific point doesn't mean there aren't other points besides what you're focusing on, it just means that Nintendo wants to draw attention to the games they have coming in 2015 at E3.

Nintendo could announce a bunch of new games releasing in 2016 at E3, but they could use a bunch of short gameplay trailers or teasers for those games and give the 2015 games they're announcing and showing new details on the most time in their presentation.

The fact that Zelda may end up becoming a 2016 game should actually show people that the Wii U will continue to be supported beyond this year and the fact that Nintendo has never released a new home console less than 5 years after their preceding platform should make people understand that it's very unlikely that the next Nintendo home console will release before Mid November 2017.
They have said they hope to share details on NX next year, but that doesn't mean they'll be ready to release it in 2016, so all signs actually point to Wii U getting games support from Nintendo until at least early Fall 2017.

If NX is in fact the Fusion system then Nintendo will have bigger game output at the launch of that system, because they can release all of their console software across both the handheld and home platforms simultaneously.

NX would make it possible for Nintendo to literally treat their new handheld and home console as one, as far as marketing goes, so at E3 2016 they could still have time in their presentations to announce games for Wii U, even if they mainly focus on the new system(s).



Nuvendil said:
Captain_Yuri said:

People should really stop jumping to conclusions... No where does it say that they wont be showing any games for 2016... This continues to fit with my theory that the nx will be a handheld because they will be showing off a few more games for the wiiu this e3 for 2016 which will be releasing next year and it will keep the console people happy while releasing the NX handheld to make the handheld people happy. Next year should be wiius last year in terms of games and then in 2017, their console will be shown and will either launch in holiday 2017 or spring 2018

It is their typical "let the game releases die down strategy" that they do almost every gen. 

See this is why Nintendo needs a Direct.  Until there's some other news, hopefully with release dates for games, there will be no end to these speculations.  They need to stabilize the situation.


A couple of hundred fanboys on the internet making a big stink isn't a situation. 

Let me ruin the ending of this generation for some people who are still happy mappy delusional land -- Wii U is what it is, it will be failure in sales terms and its going to be Nintendo's worst selling console, and Nintendo knows all of this already and has known it for some time. Zelda coming in 2015 or 2016 wasn't going to change that one way or another. 



spemanig said:
Materia-Blade said:

"this year’s E3, where we will be highlighting games launching in 2015"

What's stopping them from highlighting 2015 games AND announcing 2016 games?


Not that I agree with this, because I don't, but someone could easily argue that if they were planning to talk about/announce any 2016 games, they wouldn't omit talking about what has undoubtably become Nintendo's most important 2016 title period, for the explicit reason that they specifically want to focus on 2015 games instead.

Like, that doesn't make any sense. I think that you're definitely right, but it completely contradicts their messaging. "We aren't showing this huge 2016 Wii U exclusive we've already shown twice because we want to focus on games that are coming out this year instead. You know, aside from all those 2016 games we're still going to announce."

I think you misunderstood. I told the OP that nintendo didn't say they would only show 2016 titles.



Materia-Blade said:

I think you misunderstood. I told the OP that nintendo didn't say they would only show 2016 titles.


I know. I'm saying that someone could argue that "highlight 2015 games" implies "won't talk about 2016 games" stictly because that is the alleged reason for Zelda U's absence.



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spemanig said:

Not that I agree with this, because I don't, but someone could easily argue that if they were planning to talk about/announce any 2016 games, they wouldn't omit talking about what has undoubtably become Nintendo's most important 2016 title period, for the explicit reason that they specifically want to focus on 2015 games instead.

Like, that doesn't make any sense. I think that you're definitely right, but it completely contradicts their messaging. "We aren't showing this huge 2016 Wii U exclusive we've already shown twice because we want to focus on games that are coming out this year instead. You know, aside from all those 2016 games we're still going to announce."

If Zelda was releasing before E3 2016, it would be at E3 2015. You can take that to the bank. So it's a 2nd-half 2016 game; in fact, I'm confident it has been pushed all the way back to Holiday 2016.

Think about how much of the game they showed at E3 2014. That is how much of the game they wanted to have shown a year and a half before release. The amount of the game we've currently seen is how much they wanted to have shown under a year before release. Now, suddenly it's almost two years away from release. I don't expect to see much more of it until it is once again under a year away. It seems like they are trying to avoid the mistake they made with Skyward Sword of showing too much too soon. They planned for Zelda's big blow-out to be at E3, 5 months before its release, and that is when its big blow-out will be.

However, they will surely have some games coming out in the first half of 2016. If they want those games to be shown at any E3 conference at all, they'll have to talk about them this year.



the_dengle said:

If Zelda was releasing before E3 2016, it would be at E3 2015. You can take that to the bank. So it's a 2nd-half 2016 game; in fact, I'm confident it has been pushed all the way back to Holiday 2016.

Think about how much of the game they showed at E3 2014. That is how much of the game they wanted to have shown a year and a half before release. The amount of the game we've currently seen is how much they wanted to have shown under a year before release. Now, suddenly it's almost two years away from release. I don't expect to see much more of it until it is once again under a year away. It seems like they are trying to avoid the mistake they made with Skyward Sword of showing too much too soon. They planned for Zelda's big blow-out to be at E3, 5 months before its release, and that is when its big blow-out will be.

However, they will surely have some games coming out in the first half of 2016. If they want those games to be shown at any E3 conference at all, they'll have to talk about them this year.


Right. I agree with literally every word of that. That's not what I'm saying.

Nintendo is on record saying that the specific reason they aren't showing Zelda at E3 this year is because they want to instead focus on games specifically coming out this year. I'm saying that, by playing the devil's advocate, someone could argue that because Nintendo said that, Nintendo is alsosaying that there will only be 2015 game at E3. If they're going to show any 2016 games, their reason for not showing Zelda doesn't make any sense.

And it really doesn't make any sense, because it's PR nonsense.



Do you really think that Nintendo would really create more ill will with consumers by abandoning the Wii U? Even if that were a plan its not physically possible. The Wii U was conceived in 2008 at a time people wanted a Wii HD, but took 4 years of planning to actually release. The same people who bashed SEGA Saturn unexpected early release and Xbox 360's RROD are clamouring for a quick early release for Nintendo's next console so it could repeat the same errors, which goes beyond any form of rational thinking



They better have some unannounced games to show or their E3 will end up being a borefest. I'll worry about 2016 later, all I ask for is some decent games to replace Zelda in 2015.



spemanig said

If they're going to show any 2016 games, their reason for not showing Zelda doesn't make any sense.

And it really doesn't make any sense, because it's PR nonsense.

It's not nonsense just because someone can deliberately misinterpret it. You just agreed with me that one of the real reasons is because Zelda will be a late-2016 release. The only way to detail that would be to establish a more specific release window, which they don't want to do. The PR is not false, it's just leaving out information -- obvious information to anyone with a basic grasp of the situation.