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JRPGfan on 16 March 2015
Kerotan said:
Namiirei said:


Exactly. If sony drop the price for ps4 this year (and they will), it will be 100 dollars/euros less, not only a cheap 50 move.

They always dropped the price on their console before the end of the second year, i don't see how it will be different now, especially when the cost of the ps4 decline (contrary to the Xone, because of the DDR3).


I agree with the 100$ cut in the USA.  A cut that big sends shockwaves through the media and everyone would be talking about it because it's domination console getting a price cut at last.  

 

But why do they need to cut the EU price bar the UK? They're going to walk through the EU with an easy win so might aswell hold out and just do a 50€ cut there.  Japan likewise and same for most of the ROW. 

 

A 100 WW price is overkill and a waste of profits.  


Fairness.

Its already unfair as a consumer you need to pay so much more just because you live in the EU for things.

If you cut price in the US but dont do it in the EU it ll hurt perception of sony in EU.

 

Sony should maintain their healthy brand in EU, not tap it for profits.



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OnlyForDisplay on 16 March 2015
binary solo said:
Halo MCC bundle is tantalisingly close to breaking into the top 100 at #129. Another day or two and it should be there. Will be interesting to see how the ACU bundle goes. It's sitting pretty stable in the 22-25 range right now. If both skus can be in the top 50 until ACU gets discontinued that will be pretty good for Xb one,

Anyone spotted the MCC bundle on other retailer best seller lists?

 

Hopefully, the MCC bundle gets there before the release of BloodBourne.



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Kerotan on 16 March 2015
JRPGfan said:
Kerotan said:


I agree with the 100$ cut in the USA.  A cut that big sends shockwaves through the media and everyone would be talking about it because it's domination console getting a price cut at last.  

 

But why do they need to cut the EU price bar the UK? They're going to walk through the EU with an easy win so might aswell hold out and just do a 50€ cut there.  Japan likewise and same for most of the ROW. 

 

A 100 WW price is overkill and a waste of profits.  


Fairness.

Its already unfair as a consumer you need to pay so much more just because you live in the EU for things.

If you cut price in the US but dont do it in the EU it ll hurt perception of sony in EU.

 

Sony should maintain their healthy brand in EU, not tap it for profits.


Every company taps everywhere for profits.  Or should.  

 

It's still good value if they only cut it by 50. Sony are a business not a charity. 



COX on 16 March 2015
binary solo said:

 

Assuming PS4 production hasn't decreased compared to last year, it would seem your assumption that Sony can sell as many PS4's as it produces is flawed. PS4 is actually down YoY at this point (world wide), which means assuming supply is the same (probably more reliable) as last year, demand is down, hence any increase in production will mean more PS4's on shelves. And considering there were allegedly shortages in many markets this time last year, being down YoY really means demand has decreased quite a bit. 

With the new releases slated for March, PS4 may be up YoY for this month (world wide) but I doubt it will completely wipe out the ~250K deficit it has already built up compared to last year. But it would be cool if PS4 managed 10 million this month. It was 931K in March last year, so it is doable. 

The one place I think PS4 is guaranteed to be up YoY regardless of price is Japan. And when you consider that Japan will be helping PS4 look good for all months other than Feb, it further serves to mask the YoY drop in all other territories.

End of the day if Sony wants PS4 to grow this year compared to last year then a price cut will be essential. And I think Sony wants PS4 to increase in sales YoY.

Well the PS4 is down worldwide mainly because of the japan launch in February. In addition, (I guess that you are using Vgchartz's numbers) let's not forget since the last adjustement of ioi the Ps4 is overtracked in 2014 and undertracked in 2015.



binary solo on 16 March 2015
COX said:
binary solo said:

Assuming PS4 production hasn't decreased compared to last year, it would seem your assumption that Sony can sell as many PS4's as it produces is flawed. PS4 is actually down YoY at this point (world wide), which means assuming supply is the same (probably more reliable) as last year, demand is down, hence any increase in production will mean more PS4's on shelves. And considering there were allegedly shortages in many markets this time last year, being down YoY really means demand has decreased quite a bit. 

With the new releases slated for March, PS4 may be up YoY for this month (world wide) but I doubt it will completely wipe out the ~250K deficit it has already built up compared to last year. But it would be cool if PS4 managed 10 million this month. It was 931K in March last year, so it is doable. 

The one place I think PS4 is guaranteed to be up YoY regardless of price is Japan. And when you consider that Japan will be helping PS4 look good for all months other than Feb, it further serves to mask the YoY drop in all other territories.

End of the day if Sony wants PS4 to grow this year compared to last year then a price cut will be essential. And I think Sony wants PS4 to increase in sales YoY.

Well the PS4 is down worldwide mainly because of the japan launch in February. In addition, (I guess that you are using Vgchartz's numbers) let's not forget since the last adjustement of ioi the Ps4 is overtracked in 2014 and undertracked in 2015.

The counter to that of course is that PS4 had the benefit of Japan sales in Jan and 2 weeks of Feb for 2015, which did not happen in 2014, and it is still down YoY over the time period leading up to the Japan launch. So being down YoY isn't just because of the Japan launch. If you remove Japan sales for the first 6 (7?) weeks of the year then things are down quite a bit more. So if you knock 95K off Jan and the first 2 weeks of feb for 2015 that gives you the true picture of how much PS4 is down YoY compared to the same timeframe in 2014. Which is PS4 is ~157K down YoY for Jan and the first 2 weeks of Feb. Which is more than 10% down for that time frame.



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tokilamockingbrd on 16 March 2015

FF T-0- #3 (I think its peaking there)
BB- Up to #5 new peak for it, and it is trending much better than The Order did on amazon
PS4- #7
Mario Party 8- #8 (I wonder how high it can go)
BF HL PS4- #12
BF HL DE XB1- #17
XB1- #20
BF HL DE PS4- #21
BF HL XB1- #24

I think BF HL is doing better than it looks because the Standard and the Deluxe editions are essential splitting sales its possible with just one SKU both would be in top 10 (PS4 is only 2 spots away as is)



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JRPGfan on 16 March 2015
Kerotan said:
JRPGfan said:


Fairness.

Its already unfair as a consumer you need to pay so much more just because you live in the EU for things.

If you cut price in the US but dont do it in the EU it ll hurt perception of sony in EU.

 

Sony should maintain their healthy brand in EU, not tap it for profits.


Every company taps everywhere for profits.  Or should.  

 

It's still good value if they only cut it by 50. Sony are a business not a charity. 

 

If that is the case, why even bother in the US?  Same logic.

I feel like it would be a wrong move to not also lower prices in the EU if it did it in the US.



COX on 16 March 2015
binary solo said:
COX said:

Well the PS4 is down worldwide mainly because of the japan launch in February. In addition, (I guess that you are using Vgchartz's numbers) let's not forget since the last adjustement of ioi the Ps4 is overtracked in 2014 and undertracked in 2015.

The counter to that of course is that PS4 had the benefit of Japan sales in Jan and 2 weeks of Feb for 2015, which did not happen in 2014, and it is still down YoY over the time period leading up to the Japan launch. So being down YoY isn't just because of the Japan launch. If you remove Japan sales for the first 6 (7?) weeks of the year then things are down quite a bit more. So if you knock 95K off Jan and the first 2 weeks of feb for 2015 that gives you the true picture of how much PS4 is down YoY compared to the same timeframe in 2014. Which is PS4 is ~157K down YoY for Jan and the first 2 weeks of Feb. Which is more than 10% down for that time frame.

According Vgchartz the Ps4 sold in Japan

between the january-22nd Feb 2015 : 167,785 Ps4

in 2014 just the launch week : 319 000 Ps4

Additionaly, according Sony the Ps4 sold 1,7m  Ps4 between 1 january-1st march 2015.

 according VGZ the sold 1 727 827 Ps4 between 1 january-1st march 2014.

 

4,430,139 in 2013 (http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2013/Global/)

6,157,966  01 March 2014 (http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41700/Global/)




Kerotan on 16 March 2015
JRPGfan said:
Kerotan said:
JRPGfan said:


Fairness.

Its already unfair as a consumer you need to pay so much more just because you live in the EU for things.

If you cut price in the US but dont do it in the EU it ll hurt perception of sony in EU.

 

Sony should maintain their healthy brand in EU, not tap it for profits.


Every company taps everywhere for profits.  Or should.  

 

It's still good value if they only cut it by 50. Sony are a business not a charity. 

 

If that is the case, why even bother in the US?  Same logic.

I feel like it would be a wrong move to not also lower prices in the EU if it did it in the US.


Because if they don't in the US and X1 cuts it again they could turn the tide. In the EU they will dominate either way.  I'm still saying they should cut it everywhere I'm just saying the cut in the US should be $100 while everywhere else is $50. 



tokilamockingbrd on 16 March 2015

Type 0 XB1- up to number 63, catching fire baby.



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