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rolltide101x on 02 March 2015
Materia-Blade said:

I think you haven't seen Wii U games from nintendo, then.

Every website? lol, Wii U's gpu isn't 0.35 tflops and you can confirm that anywhere. Nintendo never revealed the specs and those are just made up numbers. But as I said, wii u's exclusives show us what it can do.

I have played virtually every Nintendo Wii U game and have not seen a game go significantly over Uncharted 3 or TLOU for PS3. Give me an example

 

I am talking from a actual graphics standpoint not an art style standpoint which Nintendo is very good at



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Materia-Blade on 02 March 2015
rolltide101x said:
Materia-Blade said:

I think you haven't seen Wii U games from nintendo, then.

Every website? lol, Wii U's gpu isn't 0.35 tflops and you can confirm that anywhere. Nintendo never revealed the specs and those are just made up numbers. But as I said, wii u's exclusives show us what it can do.

I have played virtually every Nintendo Wii U game and have not seen a game go significantly over Uncharted 3 or TLOU for PS3. Give me an example

 

I am talking from a actual graphics standpoint not an art style standpoint which Nintendo is very good at

I'm not talking about artstyle either. also, check the edit on my last post.

Games like 3d world, DK TF, MK 8, Zelda U, Xenoblade and Bayonetta 2 (this one in particullar can be directly compared to it's ps360 predecessor and crushes it) show my point.



Turkish on 02 March 2015
anthony64641 said:

What if The WiiU's rumored AAA Game is Kingdom hearts 3?

Its buy Square enix

It ,Personally, makes the most sense 

I would buy. Do you think it will out sell the Xbox One and PS4 verisons?

 

Source: http://nintendoeverything.com/tantalus-wii-u-port-will-be-announced-soon-coming-out-this-year-studios-biggest-project-yet

 

Its being ported by Tantaus which work on porting Deus Ex: Human Revolution’s Wii U version. So they have experience with the WiiU plus that also was a Square enix game... This could happen.


Why in gods name would you expect it to outsell the PS4 version? The Kingdom Hearts fanbase is on Playstation platforms. Not to mention the fact that PS4 will have an install base 5-6x bigger than Wii U when it should come out out post 2017.



rolltide101x on 02 March 2015
Materia-Blade said:
rolltide101x said:

I have played virtually every Nintendo Wii U game and have not seen a game go significantly over Uncharted 3 or TLOU for PS3. Give me an example

 

I am talking from a actual graphics standpoint not an art style standpoint which Nintendo is very good at

I'm not talking about artstyle either. also, check the edit on my last post.

Games like 3d world, DK TF, MK 8, Zelda U, Xenoblade and Bayonetta 2 (this one in particullar can be directly compared to it's ps360 predecessor and crushes it) show my point.

I was not impressed by any of those games (from a graphics standpoint) but granted I have not played Xenoblade or Bayo2.

 

Nintendo is amazing at getting the most out of hardware but the Wii U is closer to the PS3/360 than the PS4/One. If a game is really gpu intensive the Wii U simply could not handle it without stripping it down to an insane point. KH3 on Wii U is possible but not likely, if they do it it will be heavily stripped down



DK64 on 02 March 2015

NO, it is gta



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gatito on 02 March 2015

It's very unlikely but it would kind of make sense.



Kami on 02 March 2015
Materia-Blade said:
rolltide101x said:

That would weaken the graphics performance even more..... Show me a valid link where it does not say the Wii U GPU is 0.35 Teraflops...

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/gpu-specs-comparison-wiiu-vs-xbox-one-vs-ps4-30976500/

 

As I said it is atleast 1/3rd weaker than the XBOne. KH3 is technically impossible on the Wii U unless they make it at a pathetic resolution for 2015. That is to not even mention the slow ram which is roughly 6x slower according to this 

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compare/2

 

CPU wise the Wii U would be fine as neither the PS4 or XBOne has that much CPU power

You show me a valid link saying it's 0.35 teraflops. But don't waste your time because that isn't true. We have no confirmed numbers for wii u's gpu (0.35 tflops is jus a random lie) but it's performance on the exclusive games says it all: it can get a port of any ps4/x1 title.

The Wii U gpu is in fact 0.35 teraflops. Just because Nintendo never gave a number doesn't mean IBM or AMD didn't. Sony never said the PS4 was clocked at 1.6ghz but they didn't deny it and AMD confirmed it. Wii U is weak, Nothing wrong with that, I enjoy mine very much. 



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sc94597 on 02 March 2015
rolltide101x said:

1080p takes roughly double the power as 720p. But if the game is 900p/720p on the XBOne it would have to be an absolutely pathetic resolution on the Wii U. That is not even taking into consideration that the ram is roughly 6x slower. KH3 on Wii U is impossible

This is not how things work. There are so many things more than floating points that affect what resolution a game can reasonably run at. The reason why Xbone suffers at running games at 1080p isn't that it doesn't have enough theoretical power, but because its memory bandwidth is absymal compared to the PS4's. You are also assuming that there wouldn't be downgrades in texture detail, polygon count, number of assets, etc in a possible Wii U version. Nobody is saying a straight port with a downgraded resolution is possible, but certainly the Wii U's disadvantages can be accomodated for. 

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/the-xbox-one-and-ps4-share-similar-specs-but-the-devils-in-the-details/2/



sc94597 on 02 March 2015
Kami said:

The Wii U gpu is in fact 0.35 teraflops. Just because Nintendo never gave a number doesn't mean IBM or AMD didn't. Sony never said the PS4 was clocked at 1.6ghz but they didn't deny it and AMD confirmed it. Wii U is weak, Nothing wrong with that, I enjoy mine very much. 

Actually IBM and AMD didn't. The 350 gigaflop upper-estimate comes from a combination of tech-minded people looking at the GPU and considering power consumption limits in relation to the size of the die. 



rolltide101x on 02 March 2015
sc94597 said:
rolltide101x said:

1080p takes roughly double the power as 720p. But if the game is 900p/720p on the XBOne it would have to be an absolutely pathetic resolution on the Wii U. That is not even taking into consideration that the ram is roughly 6x slower. KH3 on Wii U is impossible

This is not how things work. There are so many things more than floating points that affect what resolution a game can reasonably run at. The reason why Xbone suffers at running games at 1080p isn't that it doesn't have enough theoretical power, but because its memory bandwidth is absymal compared to the PS4's. You are also assuming that there wouldn't be downgrades in texture detail, polygon count, number of assets, etc in a possible Wii U version. Nobody is saying a straight port with a downgraded resolution is possible, but certainly the Wii U's disadvantages can be accomodated for. 

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/the-xbox-one-and-ps4-share-similar-specs-but-the-devils-in-the-details/2/

True, but none of the other elements effect performance to the same level as the resolution does. (except number of assets).

I do not know if you are a PC gamer but most things do not affect performance to anywhere near the level that resolution and AA does.

 

If you were playing a game at 720p and 50 FPS with low detail textures and then change the textures to ultra you will drop to 45 FPS or so from my experience.