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Forums - Sony Discussion - Will Bloodborne be smeared like the Order: 1886? (Opinion piece)

henk on 03 March 2015

Why is it always when a game get bad reviews, that people think the problem is with the reviewer not the game.
Maybe the game is just not that good.

Video games already get pretty high reviews scores compare to movies.



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Rafux on 03 March 2015
Kerotan said:
Rafux said:
Kerotan said:
Rafux said:


Jesus Crist did you even read what I wrote? I said Uncharted is an example of UNIQUE gameplay because you could climb and jump, that was an example because The Order does nothing knew in regard to cover mechanics which you claim it did.

AGAIN I took Ratchet and Clank as an example of UNIQUE weapons in a TPS. The Order guns can shred people in the game but that is not original in any way, the weapons are run of the mill TPS guns except for the thermite, in a fantasy game I would have expected more originality.


I read what you said and I'm baffled that you brought that up because I'm strictly talking the shooting.  Uncharted doesn't hold a patch on the order regarding shooting and I'm a massive uncharted series fan. 

I'm talking about the fact that you said The Order shooting is UNIQUE when it is generic and adds nothing new or seen before but you keep talking about other things. I mentioned Uncharted as an example of unique shooting but again you seem to not understand nothing avoid subject and blindly keep complimenting The Order.


Jumping up and down is not shooting. I'm taking about pressing L2 to aim and R2 to shoot. The order blew me away in that regard.  

Is not jumping around, is taking a shoot, jump, climb and keep shooting with a better angle or flanking your enemies all of that are Uncharted shooting mechanics.

"I'm taking about pressing L2 to aim and R2 to shoot. The order blew me away in that regard. "

Well ten tell us why? Why The Order blew you away in that regard? It does nothing new, original or refreshing like you claimed



platformmaster918 on 03 March 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
platformmaster918 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I'm not arguing whether its a shooter. However, Sony was aiming for the average shooter fan in their marketing, but it was more cinematic than anticipated. I don't think Sony was as forthcoming as they should have been with that. That's why a lot of shooting fans reviewed the game and were disappointed.

And you again missed my point about Beyond: Two Souls. The commerical lead me to believe that scene was part of the game. Not some teaser for a potential sequeal. For example, what if a Marvel movie used a scene from a teaser ending in their trailer? That could mislead people about what happens in the actual movie. Hence, that was the most interesting scene in the entirety of Beyond: Two Souls but it had NOTHING to do with actual story of the game.

Plenty of movies have used ending scenes in their trailers.  If it was an important scene (which I'm thinking the one you're talking about is if it's what I think it is) then it's not exactly unprecedented.  If they had showed the jump from Halo 2 in an ad with no context I wouldn't have minded when I got to the end.  I mean it's not something that I really care about.

People didn't like the order because it was "generic" or whatever.  In fact I'm still not sure what reviewers hated so much exactly as I've played plenty of TPS that play worse.

I actually went into Beyond looking forward to seeing how the game transitions from a relatively normal life to that post apolyptic looking scene. In reality, that never happened because that was just a teaser ending. All I'm saying is that scene shouldn't have been in the ad because its misleading of what actually occurs in the game. Some other movie/game doing something similar doesn't make it okay.

Assuming you haven't done so already, I suggest watching the Angry Joe review of The Order. I think he does a pretty good job of summing up what reviewers disliked about The Order. He still thinks the game worth an experience, but that doesn't mean it deserves a high score.

I always recognized it would be a divisive game given how reviewers were reacting to it, but I expected reviewers to be more like "Some will love it some will hate it" rather than "it's terrible rarara this is what's wrong with gaming prevent this from happening again!"  Like there's a reason Sony has Bloodborne and the Order coming out they're for 2 different crowds.  I personally have a lot more fun with it than any Souls game I've played (and I platinumed Demon's Souls) but I don't dock the Souls games points for that they're just for a different crowd.

Yeah the marketing team could've done a better job it's a very particular set of circumstances that happened to work out negatively for you.  In the future I wouldn't assume too much about when a certain scene takes place.  At least it wasn't like The Grey where they make the wolf fight the central part of the trailer and advertisements then it's just teased at the end or ASM2 where they advertised the Rhino fight and cut away only to have that EXACT same thing happen in the movie.  I mean those I was mad about but this one is just an annoyance.




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