So, you're talking shipped numbers? Where was that specified? I'm talking sell through, the figures that this site has always tracked. Even 35 million shipped could be tough by March 3rd. I'm talking actual sales, not shipped. In a vgchartz thread about lifetime sales, one can assume that that's the standard unless anything else is specified.

Shipped numbers are only official numbers we are getting, so of course I talking about shipped numbers, we getting official shipped numbers at end of every quarter, but at end shipped numbers equals sold numbers like you can see on link down:

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/

I think people are overestimating the effect that PS5 and Scarlet will have on the Switch.

By the time both launches(2020), the Switch will probably be already at the 60 million mark, so even if the Switch fall off a cliff because of the competition, its not like it will sell only 5 million in the next 3 years.So assuming 2019 will not dissapoint, and nothing seems to suggest so, I think the Switch will be fine.

But even then, I truly believe PS5 and Scarlet will have little effect on Switch.By the time they launch, the Switch will be betwenn 3 and 4 years old.By then not only will it have built quite the library, but it also will be far cheaper than Sony and MS consoles, probably will be something really close to half their prices.And as much as the Switch wont impact(significaly at least) their sales, PS5 and Scarlet wont do the same for the Switch.

And for the thrid party support, which I guess is what everyone means by PS5 and Scarlet affecting Switch sales, since they would steal Switch support because the consoles would be too powerful for ports to be even considered, I think this is bullocks.First:Nintendo is dominating Japan.So as far as small to medium japanese developers are concern, power dosent interest them that much.Second: even if both the consoles launch in 2020, the game that will be developed for them will be cross-gen, so the Switch should be safe for at least until 2021, which would mean the Switch would be already betwenn 4 and 5 years, and would have already sold the bulk of what a console usually sells.Third and most important: by then the Switch will have already have been stabilished as a console worthy of its place and name.Which means that, even if the PS5 and Scarlet are massive successes, developers would still develop game for the Switch, and not in low numbers, because the Switch is also a monster itself, and an monster with an estabilished market and audience at that.Sony and MS launching a new console would steal the thunder away from Nintendo, not completely anyways.

I know how shipped numbers work, and I know the manufacturers supply them, I've been around here for over 11 years. You never specified shipped numbers, the thread is about lifetime sales of various platforms and it's on vgchartz, which has its own sales charts, the default discussion topic would then be sold to customers as per the front page. That's sort of the point of this place. Around holidays and during clearance sales, shipped figures tell only part of the story.

"Shipped numbers are only official numbers we are getting, so of course I talking about shipped numbers" again; that has to be specified. The OP makes no mention of shipped figures and the general discussion in the thread is about whether or not any one console will outsell the PSP. You have to be more clear, unless you changed your mind once you did the math and then insisted on shipped numbers instead, of course.

First for me is far more logical to compare official numbers instead VGHCHZ tracked numbers that are constantly getting adjusted, also its far more easier to predict and track Switch shipped numbers because we are getting offciall numbers for them regular basis. Second, I dont think its big difference when we comparing PSP numbers in any case because PSP is not producing and selling any more in any case, with official ship numbers for Switch, because like I wrote, ship numbers at end eaquels sold numbers in any case, like you can see for instance on examples of Wii and DS from link down and VGHCHZ numbers for those consoles (its same number). Also, keep in mind that shipped numbers means sold to retailers consoles, so Nintendo sold them in any case.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/

Once more; I know what shipped means, the point is that this was never specified.

In some cases, the difference can be vast, the Wii U was selling on its initial shipment one whole year after release. I know, I know, this isn't the Wii U, but it suggest that shipped numbers don't tell us what we need to know short term. How many units that end up in customer hands, and at which pace, tells us of the market's movement, retail orders do not in nearly the same capacity.

Wii U did had more shipments after launch each quarter in any case even if those shipment numbers were terrible. Shipment show us how some console is selling in any case, if Wii U case it was selling terrible and thats why had terible shipments, in Switch case Switch is selling great and thats why we have strong shipments, at end in any case shipments equals sold numbers, especially in this case where PAP is dead and not active platform in any case.

I don't really blame people for thinking this initially, but it is clear that the Switch should surpass it by the end of the next quarter.

PSP sales are around 82 million, right? That would put it narrowly above the GBA. Switch will likely kill 2 birds with one stone then. If Nintendo matches their forecast, Switch should be 82.27 million, which would narrowly put it over the top. I think Switch will be a little bit higher than that though (not quite 83 million, but definitely closer). So basically, I see the Switch selling closer to 3 million in Q1.

I think GBA still sold a bit more than psp. 

Yes it did. GBA sold 81.51mil units and PSP 81.5mil, very close.

This thread is peak comedy. It's just great to unearth old threads and read the now ridiculous sounding hot takes. Always gives me a good laugh.