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Twilord on 10 February 2015

Just add hype and release it to brodudes; they won't even notice. Works for Assassin's Creed.

Seriously though, Ubisoft are such a joke that I am actually laughing. Is this 'third party support' really what people want out of their consoles? (Joke, but when you look at it through that lense it explains quite thoroughly why many of us Nintendo consumers can't even fathom third party support as a selling point.)



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Skullwaker on 10 February 2015
Soundwave said:

Casual centric platform gets casual games for it. What's the problem here really?

Nintendo fans can't have it both ways here, if Nintendo wants more so-called "hardcore" third party games they should make a console specifically aimed to that market and take the lead by also making more hardcore games themselves and proving that those games can sell in big numbers on their platform -- like GoldenEye did on the N64.

You can't on one hand champion the decision to go with a more causal approach, but then get upset when third parties follow suit by offering more casual games, rather than the more violent/action-oriented titles on other platforms.

Half of Nintendo's own first year Wii U lineup was casual/mini-game fare, their entire marketing of the system was to the family/kids/casual demographic, the system had the Wii brand for crying out loud, yet third parties are somehow at fault for making games they think are suitable for said platform?

If people despise mini-game/casual fare then maybe they shouldn't have been cheering so loudly when Nintendo basically decided to turn their entire console division into a mini-game/fad-chasing direction which typifies the Wii brand. This is the type of software you get as a result of taking that approach. 

Lots of sweeping generalizations in this post. 



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Sunstrider on 10 February 2015

Hmm, I want to know my friends though.



             

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Materia-Blade on 10 February 2015
Soundwave said:


COD isn't a casual game. It's not a game someone with minimal/little game playing experience/ability would be able to last two minutes in. It's not something aimed at a soccer mom. Especially in an online deathmatch? That player would get their ass handed to them in 30 seconds. 

Just because something is popular doesn't make it casual. That just makes it mainstream. There's a difference. And for the record I don't even like the COD games all that much. 

There's a clear difference between Call of Duty and Wii Party U, if you want to hide behind the semantics and keep saying there isn't have at it. I disagree. 

I'm not downplaying anything either, the response in this thread says it all ... most people are dissapointed that it's one of those "lame sounding casual games" (versus a more core type of experience like Zombi U 2 or something), I'm just pointing out that the platform/brand is bound to get these types of games because Nintendo purposely designed a platform that puts that type of experience at the forefront. 

Did you even read what you wrote? You must think anyone who plays wii sports for the first time imedeately plays like a pro, right?

I never mentioned anything about popularity, I'm talking about game chalenge and gamers approach on it. There isn't a clear difference between COD and wii party/wii sports because both are easy to play on your own and focus on competitive multiplayer (wich is hard to master)as the focus for entertainment.

Oh, most people are dissapointed because this is a lame game, not a lame "casual"game and nintendo puts all kinds of experiences at the forefront.



uran10 on 10 February 2015

When will people learn that arguing with specific individuals is not going to end well? They wont give in even if what they speak isn't well... you know, and you'll just find yourself getting angry and saying something that might result in a ban. If you find yourself in a debate with someone like this please leave quietly.... this goes double for tbone.



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O-D-C on 10 February 2015

Oh no, I'm sure the 3 people who may have considered buying this from a $5 discount bin are mildly inconvenienced.



mii-gamer on 10 February 2015
Soundwave said:
Materia-Blade said:

And you keep repating all this wrong stuff. that's the problem.


I know you don't want to believe it, but it doesn't make it any less true. 

I can say 50 Shades of Grey is marketed/aimed at women without getting my head chewed off, it's fairly obvious Nintendo's design priorties and focus with the Wii and Wii U. 

Look at Nintendo's own first year lineup for the Wii U of new titles:

New Super Mario Bros. U, Nintendo Land, Mario & Sonic Olympics, Wii Party U, Wii Sports Club, Wii Fit U, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Game & Wario, Mario 3D World, Sing Party, LEGO City. 

Literally half the games are mini-game/casual fare compilations. Look at the launch commercials for the system -- completely aimed at kids/family/casuals. 

Yet we gonna get mad at a third party for making games along the lines of what the platform is aimed for? Sorry not buying it. Wii's brand legacy will be bringing this type of mini-game/casual fare style of gaming to the forefront of consoles (at least Nintendo ones) before all that audience ditched Nintendo for phones.

That's poor reasoning and terrible logic. 

There's a clear paradigm shift in Nintendo's focus in the 2nd year and in this year.

2nd year: Donkey Kong Country, Mario Kart 8, Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, Fatal Frame, Super Smash bros. for Wii U

2015 and known titles: Captain Toad, Kirby, Mario Party, Yoshi Woolly World, Xenoblade, Starfox, Splatoon, projest treasure, pokken tournament, Devil's third, Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei and Zelda Wii U.

As you can see core titles are now outweighing the mini-game/casual fare type games.

Wii U is a console that mainly panders to the Nintendo fanbase, the current library and it's sales suggest this. And going by what you are suggesting, if the Wii U is indeed a casula machine, then why isn't Ubisoft releasing this so called Casual title?



atomicblue on 11 February 2015

So basically Ubisoft are withholding a game that looks like a rip-off of the extra games Wii Party U offered more than a year ago.

I get the impression they were hoping for another casual-oriented machine a la the original Wii, because then they'd be able to milk a whole lot of unsuspecting people for money by pushing this sort of shovelware still. And now they're having a hissy fit because they can no longer get away with that (on Nintendo consoles at least).

No wonder people think Ubisoft sucks.



Twilord on 11 February 2015
atomicblue said:
So basically Ubisoft are withholding a game that looks like a rip-off of the extra games Wii Party U offered more than a year ago.

I get the impression they were hoping for another casual-oriented machine a la the original Wii, because then they'd be able to milk a whole lot of unsuspecting people for money by pushing this sort of shovelware still. And now they're having a hissy fit because they can no longer get away with that (on Nintendo consoles at least).

No wonder people think Ubisoft sucks.


Add hype + brown + release on the twins. - MEGA-SALES.

 

Works for everything else they do. (Talking about Ubisoft - not all games on the twins.)



atomicblue on 11 February 2015

Yeah, pretty much. One could argue that most of what Ubi does these days are casual games, just not in the same way that something like this is a casual game.