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Chazore said:
I'm hearing it's going to be 1080p 60fps across all 3 platforms, not just only PS4..

Although I;m not a fan of the soul series I'm happy that this will fix the PC version and do them right, more sales for From after all and they might eventually in ten thousand years make another Armoured Core.

They're certainly not doing right by any PC player.  The game will have to be purchased again.



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My God that looks terrible. If we're only going to get last gen at 60fps you can keep it.



 

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spemanig said:
Ruler said:

It wont look near as good as bloodborne, bloodborne has all kinds of effects true next gen worthy


I just don't consider 30fps is "next gen worthy." Especially when a similar game is running twice as fast on the same hardware. To each there own.

A lot of games runned at 30fps in the past, mgs4 on ps3 , silent hill 2 and 3 on ps2 just a few i know which no one cared about back then. Now its all of the sudden a big deal?

Dark souls is a similiar game gameplay wise but not graphicswise



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Ruler said:

A lot of games runned at 30fps in the past, mgs4 on ps3 , silent hill 2 and 3 on ps2 just a few i know which no one cared about back then. Now its all of the sudden a big deal?

Dark souls is a similiar game gameplay wise but not graphicswise


I wouldn't praise any of those games for not hitting 60fps. And we're working on stronger hardware. Games are supposed to get better. I think it's sad that we have to look at games one or two generations ago as assurance that practices today are acceptable.



spemanig said:
Ruler said:

A lot of games runned at 30fps in the past, mgs4 on ps3 , silent hill 2 and 3 on ps2 just a few i know which no one cared about back then. Now its all of the sudden a big deal?

Dark souls is a similiar game gameplay wise but not graphicswise


I wouldn't praise any of those games for not hitting 60fps. And we're working on stronger hardware. Games are supposed to get better. I think it's sad that we have to look at games one or two generations ago as assurance that practices today are acceptable.

This is what mostly concerns me about this generation of consoles, as far as I've been aware this gen has been touted and marketed as being all about the 1080p 60fps experience, granted some games do manage to reach that but I'm not seeing 99% of them reaching that status like they should and now because they all don't reach that goal people go into buyers remorse mode trying to make it sound like the lack of what should be attained and given is somehow a great thing when really it's not and then it's played into the whole preference card to make it appear as if that logic can't be contested, PC games for years have had that standard and now it somehow "doesn't matter" because this gen barked and couldn't bite and bit more than it could chew.

Then we also get stuff like IGN showing the PS4 updated version to a last gen PC version and now gulable people are believing the PS4 version will trump all which is a lie since all 3 will be on even ground for once, there will even be ports from PS4 to PC that I can guarantee won't work 100% well on PC which won't be an issue with PC but with the devs and the limited hardware in general.

Sorry for the mini rant but I do agree, games are supposed to get better as tech improves, back in the PS2 days we had plenty of games that ran full on 60fps.



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Chazore said:
spemanig said:
Ruler said:

A lot of games runned at 30fps in the past, mgs4 on ps3 , silent hill 2 and 3 on ps2 just a few i know which no one cared about back then. Now its all of the sudden a big deal?

Dark souls is a similiar game gameplay wise but not graphicswise


I wouldn't praise any of those games for not hitting 60fps. And we're working on stronger hardware. Games are supposed to get better. I think it's sad that we have to look at games one or two generations ago as assurance that practices today are acceptable.

This is what mostly concerns me about this generation of consoles, as far as I've been aware this gen has been touted and marketed as being all about the 1080p 60fps experience, granted some games do manage to reach that but I'm not seeing 99% of them reaching that status like they should and now because they all don't reach that goal people go into buyers remorse mode trying to make it sound like the lack of what should be attained and given is somehow a great thing when really it's not and then it's played into the whole preference card to make it appear as if that logic can't be contested, PC games for years have had that standard and now it somehow "doesn't matter" because this gen barked and couldn't bite and bit more than it could chew.

Then we also get stuff like IGN showing the PS4 updated version to a last gen PC version and now gulable people are believing the PS4 version will trump all which is a lie since all 3 will be on even ground for once, there will even be ports from PS4 to PC that I can guarantee won't work 100% well on PC which won't be an issue with PC but with the devs and the limited hardware in general.

Sorry for the mini rant but I do agree, games are supposed to get better as tech improves, back in the PS2 days we had plenty of games that ran full on 60fps.

I never excepted games to run @60&1080p, i excepted every game to look like crysis or having a lot more physics and particle effects. Some games like knack are archieving that, evil within also looks not bad with its shadow effects and games like blooodborne look promising.



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sc94597 said:

Well the PC version can be downsampled from higher resolutions,  with effects like  SSAO. So it will ALWAYS be the best looking version.

 

Not always.This new version has better lighting than the older which means PS4/xone > old pc build

 

New pc build > ps4/xone though....

 



spemanig said:
Ruler said:

A lot of games runned at 30fps in the past, mgs4 on ps3 , silent hill 2 and 3 on ps2 just a few i know which no one cared about back then. Now its all of the sudden a big deal?

Dark souls is a similiar game gameplay wise but not graphicswise


I wouldn't praise any of those games for not hitting 60fps. And we're working on stronger hardware. Games are supposed to get better. I think it's sad that we have to look at games one or two generations ago as assurance that practices today are acceptable.

games are getting better.   ...it's just you are in a teeny-tiny minority of gamers that actually care about 60 fps.  30 vs. 60fps doesn't affect sales in any meaningful way because it doesn't nothing to improve the way a game looks.  amazing lighting, amazing character models, amazing animations, amazing particle effects, ect. can actually be a difference maker when it comes to sales because people can actually see these differences. 

i for one will gladly take a 30fps game that's pretty to a 60fps game that has to sacrifise anything on screen to achieve that.  i place absolutely zero value on 60 fps and that's probably what makes me a console gamer.   if i gave anything other than no-shits about that i'd probably play on pc where i could get amazing framerates out of all sorts of shitty looking indie games and years late console ports...



OttoniBastos said:
sc94597 said:

Well the PC version can be downsampled from higher resolutions,  with effects like  SSAO. So it will ALWAYS be the best looking version.

 

Not always.This new version has better lighting than the older which means PS4/xone > old pc build

 

New pc build > ps4/xone though....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_space_ambient_occlusion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambient_occlusion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shading#Ambient_lighting

But yeah, I was talking about the new version anyway. 



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