While XB1 bundle now leads at amazon.com (3rd free game + free controller Wow), PS4 is now in first position at bestbuy thanks to the PS TV free bundle even when XB1 ACU bundle at bestbuy also includes a third game for free (lego batman).

With those crazy deals Microsoft are really serious into winning USA monthly when they clearly don' t care about the rest of the world. Those deals must cost them a lot.

But overall I expect PS4 to still win february NPD even if not by much.

Ok then they would get the same price for ever even if it goes up in price, but sony will get a revision of the contract as the price in gddr5 goes down, so MS is still loosing money whille sony is profiting now and will eventually be able to drop the price further and still profit.

Another thing is I highly doubt these type of contracs last for a decade like they did for ps360. As soon as these contracts end and the suplyers is not profiting and unable to advance iin what the next upgrade is due to being forced to suport legacy technology, they wil drop MS unless they pay more for each chip. Making the x1 more expensive and being sold at a higher lost, or the most likely senario, MS will drop the xbox completly. I have  felling this will happen in 2-4 years, giving the x1 a max life of 5years.

What? These contracts ensure the upper limit of prices. Remember when HDD prices went to the roof because of a natural catastrophe in asia? Why didn't this affect consoles?

And especially, ram is only one factor of the price of consoles. Biggest thing is the apu itself.

But I see what you are inferring on false assumptions. If you or anyone want to discuss this topic further, use my wall or PN, this is just not the right place to discuss this.

After they basicly abandoned the rest of the world, the disparity will be so big that no european or japanesse game will even think about xbox when desining a game and will not care for optimization and parity. This will make a lot more controversy. Then even american games like shooters will naturally follow the largest installbase and will choose to assosiate with ps4 unless MS pays just far to much.

Im hoping this will happen, maybe it will forze MS to actually make their own games. And like you say give the oportunity to other non AAA's, although I see them fighting with nintendo for thouse few gem's. So I see american gems t be swepted up by MS, while rest of world will go nintendo, unless of course sony finds them first.

People may not be willing to accept it, but sony crushing the competition can actually be good for the industry, it will make the others try new things they would never dream of when they where all doing good last gen. Example, nintendo going with bayoneta and hyrule wariors and MS' back tracking.

Exactly my point, contracts end and when it ends MS is screwed.

I also did not say sony will get a $100 pricecut from ram alone, but every little bit helps, could be the diference in taking a loss and breaking even, like the xbox division would like to be doing.

Why is this not the right place? we are talking factors that will affect future sales. 

Because this is not how it works. Of course contracts end, on both sides. But then again, chips for DDR3 and GDDR5 will still be produced although they are not available publically. Hell, GDDR5 isn't even sold to consumers in any way. GPUs will soon have HBM memory and not GDDR5 ram. Sony screwed then? Where are they getting XDR ram for PS3? Also screwed?

Gap between the PS4 and X1 in the hourlies has shrunk a teensy bit. The Order has fallen to #31. PS3 is still surprisingly high at #56.

No, how you put it is how things dont work. As you probaby have noticed, its been a while since last gen got a pricecut while sony got ps3 down to $210. Thats because they workded on it to drp the price but be assure thats the last attempt they will do n the ps3 cuz is not worth it anymore. When was the last time the 360 got a pricecut? Sure it might happen, but unless they have to, because of contract, profit, popular demand, devs in any industry will instanly drop aging tech and try to inovate before they get left behind. At some point it will happen to gddr5 as well but it will first happen to ddr3.

This is the same issue nintendo has with power pc. Even if is better, they are the only ones using it and nobody else is soporting it and lef them behind. Once everybody drops something, the only ones left doing it will charge more for their sevices because they are the only ones doing it and theres no other choices.

PS3 is also on a timer. Most likely right before the release of the ps4 they made a deal with the suplyers for a few more years. You can expect that as soon as that contract ends witch I belive to be at most 2 more years, the ps3 will be out of the market. 

Definitely performing much better than Evolve.  I believe someone stated earlier that it was out of the Top 100 just 4 days after launch.  We are 5 days after launch and it is still in the Top 50.  My guess is its going to take longer than a week or so from launch for it to drop out of the chart completely.

It's safe to say that despite the media backlash, The Order is likely a commerical success.