That's the thing:

AT&T doesn't control shit when it comes to the iPhone. When you buy an iPhone, you actually sign a contract stating that the AT&T employee has not opened your box in the store (LOL). You also sign a contract with Apple along with your AT&T contract.

AT&T can't even activate the phone. You have to go home and do it through iTunes. 

Anyway, back on topic... what does everyone think of the game potential on the iPhone? Precursor to something larger, or is this it for now for Apple?

Reasons why the iPhone as a gaming device will never take off:

-Device limitations. The iPhone has no face buttons or D-pad and does not accept external storage media (flash cartridges, etc.) The device also has a touchscreen which requires the use of bare hands, making precise touchscreen effects (as the DS stylus is capable of) impossible.

-Little software support. The iPhone as a gaming device will not break into the Japanese market, since it's made by an American company, and Western developers have already picked either the PSP or DS to support. Finally, Apple does not have an internal game development house, meaning they're entirely at the mercy of third parties. (As a note, no company without an internal dev studio has ever succeeded in entering either the console or handheld market.)

-Too expensive. At $400 + a yearly contract, nobody will buy it for gaming when the alternatives are a $130 DS or a $170 PSP, each of which have a sizable game library to their credit.

I really need to know what GPU it has to determine its graphicle power, and if it has atleast 4mb of video ram. If it has a descent GPU, and Descent ram, it can produce some nice graphics maybe even as high as psp? I just hope its at most $299.99(8GB) and I will buy it somehow.

Apple doesn't want people to buy it for gaming. They want people to buy it, period.

If the thing gets a few decent games, it will be the equivalent to a PSP with crappier games, better multimedia functionality, internet access everywhere, phone capabilities, and one of the best interfaces ever devised for a portable device. 

 iPhone is NOT a gaming device! It's a mobile phone with a lot of potential for gaming. If it doesn't do very well in the gaming sector it will have VERY little effect on the phone in the long run. Right now it's just an extension of iPod games. We'll have to wait and see if more developers follow EA and Sega's (two of the biggest publishers out there) lead in supporting it.

Like I said earlier in this thread, there's also the iPod Touch as an option, not to mention that you're getting MUCH more than games for that $400. Also, the games are download based, and with 16GB on onboard storage, lack of space will not be an issue. And I haven't seen anything regarding using external devices to expand the capabilities of the phone with the SDK, meaning that more functionality (IE Card reader/more memory) could be added on in the future.

 Except it probably won't even get "a few decent games." Why would any company develop a game for the iPhone, which has an install base of - what, 5 million? - with only a small percentage of those interested in buying games, when they could develop for 60 million on the DS or 30 million on the PSP?

All that apple needs to do is advertise some games for the iphone(SUPER MARIO BROS IS ON THE IPHONE!!) and it could pick up sales, not that it needs it. I think its selling as well as the  DS in NA right now.

 I found out that it doesn't have a traditional gpu but rather uses some of it's 600mhz of cpu power plus a co-processor that helps produce graphics. This means psp-gamecube lvl graphics all I need is to find out how much ram.