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Is Valve...

...safe because MS won't... 35 14.89%
 
...safe. MS will sell gam... 99 42.13%
 
...safe, because all PC g... 11 4.68%
 
...doomed. MS will crush ... 7 2.98%
 
...doomed. They will give... 65 27.66%
 
...doomed. But MS is too ... 17 7.23%
 
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Kelzus on 22 January 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Kelzus said:
Not a chance. And nobody should want it to happen after the scourge that was GFWL

I liked GFWL!

Shame on you! I had lots of trouble with it to the point where I never touched a game with GFWL after. Shame cus it would have been awesome if they put some effort into the thing



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Frogger on 22 January 2015

People with free Steam accounts and sometimes thousands of games are going to start building a completely new library for $50 a year? Is that what is being suggested? Riiiiiiight.



manny10032 on 22 January 2015

nope not happening at all. MS won't touch Valve



Kerotan on 22 January 2015

Can someone summarise why valve might be doomed?



Captain_Tom on 22 January 2015

The only person who would say this is someone COMPLETELY out of the loop when it comes to PC gaming.



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torok on 23 January 2015
Leadified said:


Origin entered the market and they seem to be doing alright and there is also Desura and GOG. They're nowhere near as big as Steam but it looks like they can manage in their own way, so I can't see why MS wouldn't be able to do the same.

I also don't really see Halo, Gears or Forza coming to PC, I think they will remain on Xbox since those are pretty big name exculsives for the platform. Tomb Raider might be exculsive to their service or it might come out on Steam like Halo: Spartan Assault which started off on the Windows Store and then got released on Steam. We'll know by the end of the year I suppose.


Desura and GOG are pretty small. Origin only does a little better because it's the only place to buy Fifa and BF, two massive franchises.



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torok on 23 January 2015
CladInShadows said:

MS does not control all games.  They only have control over the games they publish and/or develop and/or money hat. They can ban the sale of their own games on Steam just like EA with Origin.  So, at most, we will have an Origin-like level of competition.

That being said, if they remain competitive in terms of price and in terms of being an attrative alternative to steam for publishers and developers, then Steam could have some real competition.


Remember, EA and MS are different. Valve pretty much stopped their software output when they got into Steam. No publisher want to sell their games in a platform dominated by a competitor. Why would Activision want to sell in Origin if EA competes with the with BF? You need a more neutral player, something that Valve and MS are.



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torok on 23 January 2015
spemanig said:
People with free Steam accounts and sometimes thousands of games are going to start building a completely new library for $50 a year? Is that what is being suggested? Riiiiiiight.


US$ 50 a year? Get informed. Live Silver accounts are free, I have one.



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torok on 23 January 2015
Captain_Tom said:
The only person who would say this is someone COMPLETELY out of the loop when it comes to PC gaming.


Why? Is Steam invencible? I'm sure Netscape, IE, Nokia, BlackBerry, IBM and a lot of other companies looked invencible in their own game in a given time period. Even on gaming: wasn't Nintendo invencible after the NES? Who could beat Sony after the PS2?

Even the roman empire went down eventually. Counting out someone as dangerous and full of resources as MS isn't wise. It could be actually easy. If they beat Steam pricing, it's done.



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torok on 23 January 2015
Chazore said:
I can't see that happening at all tbh, people say this about some other competitor when they get hold of a new toy or marketing tactic, people instantly go into "MS/Sony/Nintendo/PC is DOOMED!!!11" without looking properly into the past, present and the future (who ever wants to wait for the future though when we can apparently see into it and pull numbers out of our asses though?).

Valve will still go strong with Steam and MS will partly be strong with W10, in the hopes it doesn't pull a Windows 8 and doesn't fuck up any more than they already have with their "PC gaming" offerings from their recent event (goody I get the privy to buy an expensive console that looses exclusives to the PC I already own and I get to stream the less exclusive sub par games to my already powerful PC and enjoy the sufferable lag).


Windows 8 surely pissed a lot of people, but they didn't lose market share. MS is safe in desktop OS.

Despite that, it isn't as simple as "plays X1 games on the PC I already have". Most PS4 and X1 ports are asking for beefy GPUs, so the same guy that complained about a 500 bucks X1 probably won't have a monster PC sitting on his desk.



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