You know Steam has an offline mode where all your games are playable still right? Not really sure how it's any different to PSN/XBLA software???

Steam machine coming out in near futuer.

Because they would be giving Gabe free money, Sony/MS would gain nothing from having Steam on their consoles and even then Valve is in control of Steam so Sony/MS would be at the complete mercy of the service.

That and I don't see a reason for Steam to be on consoles, consoles have their own exclusives and games like the PC does and the consoles of this gen still aren't enough to run a game like Star Citizen, not every single PC game runs flawlessly on a console because they use closed hardware that's already outdated.

If they made that deal with Nvidia this gen they would have had a bit more on the specs but instead they went with AMD since Nvidia was asking for too much (esp since Sony lost out on most profits last gen thanks to expensive hardware and didn't want to do it again).

I honestly don't understand why you didn't just title the thread as "Do you think it's possible for MS & Sony to have PC exclusives ported over".

Thing is though when it comes to a console it's a one way street since the beginning of time, with PC it can be a two way street at times (like Portal 2 for instance) but at the same time a PC not only makes all games for all platforms but it can also run them, wheras a console cannot run them all unless they are changed completely from their locked hardware design.

I see a point in valve making more money from Sony & MS and them making themselves money if they port over some of their exclusives, but I don't see any gain from MS & Sony trying to give free moiney to Gabe in the hopes of being able to hopefully run watered down PC games, RTS games to mind do not really run that well on consoles at all, I'm a huge fan of RTS and I've tried the majority on consoles as well as PC to know the M+K combo for them is superior.

Sony and MS wouldn't allow it.

Proprietary is the heart of Valve. Their heart is DRM. Digital DRM on PS4 and X1 is more restrictive? Well, let's see:

- I have digital games on PS4 and PS3. I can make a backup of them. If I decide to never connect both consoles to the internet again, it's fine. If my PSN account is banned, I can still play my games forever. If my console breaks, I can use my personal backup to restore it to a new one.

- I have digital games on Steam. I cannot backup them, it's useless anyway since they are infested with DRM. If I decide to never connect to the internet again, my games will stop working after the timeout of the always online DRM check (1 month, I believe). If my Steam account is banned, my games will stop working after the timeout. If my HDD breaks and I somehow have a backup of all my Steam games, they won't work unless I do the DRM check (and my account isn't banned).

The games aren't more expensive because the consoles are closed systems. It doesn't make sense. If the only choice of hardware to play YOUR game is that console, it would make sense to sell it for a bigger price since you need it. But that console isn't the same option to play that game. You can buy the competitor.

Steam game pricing is so low because you aren't buying a real game. You are buying a DRM infested piece of software that can have the plug pulled anytime they want and you can't do anything about it.

Don't present Valve as some open patterns heroes. They aren't. DRM is the ultimate offense to open software/platform. They are the most restrictive player in the industry and don't have the minimum decency to at least clarify their practices to the consumer. Remeber the X1 initial backlash? They were pulling a Steam! That's what they wanted: always online DRM so they would drop the game prices. Maybe they should have been as stealth as Valve so people wouldn't know and everything would be fine.