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elnino334 on 06 March 2008

The problem with presenting the best games and best sales as facts for a whole year is that the year hasn't happened. I don't want to take jabs at the PS3 but we still don't know for sure about the lineup as mgs4 is the only one that has a true confirmation similar for the XBox 360 gears of war 2 has a concrete date though both could all of sudden be delayed. This is why you wait and see what happens. That is what makes it interesting!. We don't know what games will be delayed, what price drops are to come, and quite frankly if war world 3 where to all of a sudden happen in 2008 how will that affect gaming LOL. Obviously that is an exxageration but my point is it would be nice to keep facts to things that have actually happened and the rest to opinions or hopes etc based on old facts.

"There is nothing to spin. Blu-Ray is now the HD standard. PS3 weekly sales (worldwide) are beating 360's. "

That would be fact since it is actually happening but the best lineup is truly on the eye of the beholder.



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llewdebkram on 06 March 2008

Sony: We Will Conquer All.



I think it should read....

Sony: Wii will conquer all.



Played_Out on 06 March 2008
NJ5 said:

The best quotes:

“Without question there’s very much a sense of confidence and renewed enthusiasm. It happened so fast we can’t help but do a little high-fiving in the office.”

High-fiving eh?

“Things probably moved rapidly for our competition too, in the opposite direction."

Oh really?

 


That doesn't make any sense. I'm pretty sure they would be high-fiving when they've conclusively sealed victory in the Hi-def format war. And the competition did move rapidly in the other direction. It wasn't long after the Warner announcement that Toshiba admitted defeat.

I can't believe this guy's comments have baited so many Sony haters. Nothing he said was even remotely outrageous. The "We Will Conquer All" and "crush the competition" stuff was from the journalist, not Sony's marketing guy. I guess any opportunity to hate on Sony is good enough for some.

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Amen, brother.



Rath on 06 March 2008

I took the competition quote to be referring to MS and Ninty, not Toshiba.



FOOD on 06 March 2008
bdbdbd said:
FOOD said:

What surprises me most is how people get irritated with PR talk. They are paid to say stuff within this nature. Nothing unexpected here. We see this type of talk from Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony.

 I can't imagine some guy from Sony saying, "Oh, the competition has a great lineup of software and hardware, I can't argue with that, but here's why I think ours is marginally better." In your dreams, people. Be mature and don't let the company's arrogance tug on your panties.  Make judgements for your purchases for yourself. 


 

And that's why people get so irritated. You see Sony does unbelievably bad PR. Usually when you're supposed to do PR, you're supposed to say that competition has done good and they have some good games in their lineup, but we just have better. And we see the trend changing because of X and Y, and we are very positive considering the future. These kind of statements cause even uncertainity for shareholders, since you give an impression that you don't know what you are doing and has the company understood what they have done wrong so far. Edit: Forgot to add, that when you're going to mock the competition, you're supposed to take a stab, instead of outing outright lies. And instead of saying they are good, but we are better, Sonys PR usually says we suck hard, but they suck even harder.

 Regardless, there's no reason to get irritated because a PR is going by PR 101. PR is supposed to avoid praising the competition at all. Sure, they can't exchange a few nasty words, but a PR doesn't serve a purpose if he praises the competition. It's common sense.  



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darthdevidem01 on 06 March 2008

@elnino

I don't understand HOW you can say xbox 360 has a better Variety of games this year, as a previous poster mentioned



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darthdevidem01 on 06 March 2008

@elnino

you may say the "best lineup is on the eye of the beholder" but NOBODY complained last year when M$ said at E3 they have the best Holiday lineup ever when FOR Me

SMG just about trumped every single 360 game comin out last year holidays...

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The SONY PR person is looking at sales & saying this, GT (15 million at its peak in sales), FF (10 million at its peak), MGs (7 million at its peak) ----- I am NOT saying GT5, MGs4 & FF13 will sell that much (hell them doing half of that each would be respectable)

BUt in Franchise VALUE, YES he is Correct in saying Ps3 has a better lineup than xbox 360..



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Lone_Canis_Lupus on 06 March 2008
Sullla said:

If I were a Sony fan, I would be extremely concerned about this quote, that no one else has mentioned yet:

It is clearly an article of faith at Sony that the PS2 hordes are just waiting for the right moment to assert their dedication to The Brand, and join the party. “The PlayStation fan continues to be loyal to the PlayStation brand. We see huge overlap on PS3 ownership and PSP ownership and PS2 ownership. So we continue to put in the bank millions of PS2 owners who are ripe for upgrading to PS3 at the right point in time.

It looks like the Sony heads are still naively assuming that PS2 owners all want to upgrade to PS3s, and will do so in the near future. That's the sort of thing I expect to hear from an Internet fanboy, not the PR director of a major corporation. They still just don't "get it", which is really the only way I can put it. If I were in that position, I'd be working aggressively to maintain or win back the loyalty of PS2 gamers, especially the casual ones who never bought more than a yearly Madden/FIFA or Grand Theft Auto. The arrogant attitude that says "[we] put in the bank millions of PS2 owners" is the very reason why the PS3 has struggled so much to this point.


 As BS as this whole PR thing is(which isn't surprising...I mean, no matter the company...PR is usually annoying), that part is surprisingly true in my experience. Most of my friends that have already gone to next-gen systems have all gone to the 360 or Wii...but all my friends that stayed behind with the PS2 to make a choice later are wanting a PS3. He's not talking about the people that have already switched, but the people that stayed with the PS2. It sounds BS...but all my friends that did stay behind with the PS2 are starting to want a PS3 over the Wii and 360.  Don't shoot down that quote just yet...he might be right that as the PS2 gradually dies, the ones left behind with it might come in a mass herd toward the PS3.

 

There might still be quite a bit that go toward the 360 or Wii...but reading that quote made me think about all my friends still with the PS2.  And I think it's interesting he might be right about that...having a lot of potential customers still with the PS2.



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HappySqurriel on 06 March 2008
Lone_Canis_Lupus said:

 As BS as this whole PR thing is(which isn't surprising...I mean, no matter the company...PR is usually annoying), that part is surprisingly true in my experience. Most of my friends that have already gone to next-gen systems have all gone to the 360 or Wii...but all my friends that stayed behind with the PS2 to make a choice later are wanting a PS3. He's not talking about the people that have already switched, but the people that stayed with the PS2. It sounds BS...but all my friends that did stay behind with the PS2 are starting to want a PS3 over the Wii and 360.  Don't shoot down that quote just yet...he might be right that as the PS2 gradually dies, the ones left behind with it might come in a mass herd toward the PS3.

 

There might still be quite a bit that go toward the 360 or Wii...but reading that quote made me think about all my friends still with the PS2.  And I think it's interesting he might be right about that...having a lot of potential customers still with the PS2.


You will always have a segment of the population that is brand loyal, but there really isn't that many of them ...

As an example, one of my friends owned a walkman, discman and a minidisc player and refuses to buy an iPod because it isn't produced by Sony; until the iPod was released he never seemed to care much about Apple at all and now they're the devil for producing a piece of hardware people actually wanted. Even though Sony was super popular with their portable music players for decades this didn't prevent Apple from comming along and dominating the MP3 player market when they produced the right product ...



CaptainPrefrences on 06 March 2008

the only thing i agree on with this guy is the ps2 owners upgrading because of gta iv.