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“Once Grand Theft Auto ships on the platform I think you’ll see those folks on the side line saying ‘I don’t want to get stuck with the wrong one. I’m a PlayStation fan. I waited out the HD-DVD thing and I listened to a lot of misinformation. Now I don’t need to wait.’ There are lots of reasons to jump in, and PS3’s by far the strongest choice.”

 If the guy is a Playstation fan, he never ever considered buying a 360, and he's already bought a PS3...

 And I thought "Jump In" used to mean "buy a 360"...



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BengaBenga said:
Jandre002 said:
“The time that they had to create huge distance and build a massive install base before the PS3 could really take root; that opportunity is over and there’s no real capitalization of it. They had a great crescendo moment with Halo and it helped catapult them into a pretty strong position towards the back end of last year, but they were still within a stone’s throw of where they were with the original Xbox. "

I said this a million times! . The 360's year was last year, and even with their best game and lower price they couldn't pull away from the PS3. I dont think the 360 can possibly sell more more this year than last(if any) , but I'm positive the PS3 will with games, blu-ray, and features attracting more people.

I dont think Banjo, Fable, and GoW2 is as good as Bioshock,Mass Effect, and Halo 3.

Nope you're right. But they don't have to cause these games aren't gonna dissapear or decrease in quality all of a sudden.

+ GTA4 exclusive content, + Alan Wake, + Tales of Vesperia, + $100,- price difference, + Gears 2, + incredibly strong existing catalog 

I think 360 can be competitive at least. I agree that PS3 will have a good year though.

"The time that they had to create huge distance and build a massive install base before the PS3 could really take root" How long thit they actually plan for it to take root?


I think his wrong.  Comparing those last 6 games shows that you have this year a pure RPG in fable, Pure Adventure/action in Banjo, and finally at least for me GoW2 is  a way better shooter then Halo 3.  Again is all about preference and this year the 360 has the best variety which can get more people to buy it.  Again not trying to knock the PS3 as it does have some good games coming out but the 360 is as good if not better especially if you look at diversity.  This will be a very interesting year :)



It was a interesting read to say the least!

I don't see why people here are getting annoyed at this PR spin, it's funny that when Ninty and MS do the exact same thing people do not go at them like they do when Sony do it... Interesting eh?



FOOD said:

What surprises me most is how people get irritated with PR talk. They are paid to say stuff within this nature. Nothing unexpected here. We see this type of talk from Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony.

 I can't imagine some guy from Sony saying, "Oh, the competition has a great lineup of software and hardware, I can't argue with that, but here's why I think ours is marginally better." In your dreams, people. Be mature and don't let the company's arrogance tug on your panties.  Make judgements for your purchases for yourself. 


And that's why people get so irritated. You see Sony does unbelievably bad PR. Usually when you're supposed to do PR, you're supposed to say that competition has done good and they have some good games in their lineup, but we just have better. And we see the trend changing because of X and Y, and we are very positive considering the future. These kind of statements cause even uncertainity for shareholders, since you give an impression that you don't know what you are doing and has the company understood what they have done wrong so far. Edit: Forgot to add, that when you're going to mock the competition, you're supposed to take a stab, instead of outing outright lies. And instead of saying they are good, but we are better, Sonys PR usually says we suck hard, but they suck even harder.

Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

Squall_Leonhart said:
It was a interesting read to say the least!

I don't see why people here are getting annoyed at this PR spin, it's funny that when Ninty and MS do the exact same thing people do not go at them like they do when Sony do it... Interesting eh?
 yes but they have been better about it...and rarely does nin rip into the comp like this..they might say they are better but not at the expense of the other guy 

 



 

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Nothing like pure unadulterated PR spin on things. He's comment re: 360 are a little outlandish at times but amusing. I'm surprised he hopped-skipped-jumped around the whole Wii thing. Is Wii not taking any PS2 supporters?

And it's a little scary they are still counting on people to be mindless Brand supporters and not just buy PS3 on it's own merits vs the competition.



 

Squall_Leonhart said:
It was a interesting read to say the least!

I don't see why people here are getting annoyed at this PR spin, it's funny that when Ninty and MS do the exact same thing people do not go at them like they do when Sony do it... Interesting eh?

 Probably because Nintendo and MS PR spins are not "the exact same thing"...



As a PS3 owner, I now want to sell my PS3. Any takers?

J/K of course, but why is this company so full of fail lately? They need to get off their fucking high horse and just start working again like, I dunno, every other company in the industry who still exists.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Rugger08 said:

Here he is on PS3’s alleged technical superiority to Xbox 360. “Third parties have started to move from the de facto 360 SDK. Of course people designed their next-gen games on it because that was the only one there. The PS3 shipped and so they said, ‘let’s port our 360 games to the PS3.' But now companies are recognizing that ‘hey, if I start on the PS3 and then port down to the 360, my 360 game is going to look better than if I had just designed it for the 360.' So the pendulum is swinging. The heads of development thinking ‘what’s going to show off my next-gen game that much better?’ It is to lead with the PS3 and then to port to the 360.”

Did he really say that a 360 game will look better if it is designed for the PS3 and then ported to the 360? Isn't the best they can hope for is that it will look the same as if they design the game specifically for the 360? This guy is an idiot.

 Being that MS is totally reliant on 3rd party titles to survive, most of those 3rd party games are multiplatform too. If you have to have a game that has to run on both a PS3 and 360, this is the far easiest route(what you bolded). Burnout: Paradise says "HI!"

 



So what do you win if your prefered console sells more than another?

bdbdbd said:
FOOD said:

What surprises me most is how people get irritated with PR talk. They are paid to say stuff within this nature. Nothing unexpected here. We see this type of talk from Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony.

I can't imagine some guy from Sony saying, "Oh, the competition has a great lineup of software and hardware, I can't argue with that, but here's why I think ours is marginally better." In your dreams, people. Be mature and don't let the company's arrogance tug on your panties. Make judgements for your purchases for yourself.


 

And that's why people get so irritated. You see Sony does unbelievably bad PR. Usually when you're supposed to do PR, you're supposed to say that competition has done good and they have some good games in their lineup, but we just have better. And we see the trend changing because of X and Y, and we are very positive considering the future. These kind of statements cause even uncertainity for shareholders, since you give an impression that you don't know what you are doing and has the company understood what they have done wrong so far. Edit: Forgot to add, that when you're going to mock the competition, you're supposed to take a stab, instead of outing outright lies. And instead of saying they are good, but we are better, Sonys PR usually says we suck hard, but they suck even harder.


I dunno, videogame PR often seems to be childish. Probably hoping it'll gain popularity with the school yard crowd. It's been the default way to assault a Nintendo lead anyway.

I mean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7GxI9aiiYE

Genisis Does what Nintendon't?

Those were some classic commercials.

But yeah.  Sony's PR has been the worst.  Probably because these guys aren't battle tested.  Their used to their systems actually being the best instead of being at the back of the line.

Wonder how bad Nintendo's N64 PR must have been.