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AlfredoTurkey on 30 January 2015
binary solo said:
Aura7541 said:

Here's the link to the OP of Boutros's December NPD thread and scroll down to the bottom to see the archives: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6994455

There, you can see how wonky VGC's tracking was (and is) and how the site incorrectly predicted the X1 winning certain months when the PS4 actually won.

Ya'll are collectively giving Mr Turkey too much airtime his fundamentally flawed thinking. People should learn by now that there is no arguing people around to a more logical way of thinking when it goes against their personal desires.

 

You don't know my personal desires, or lack thereof anymore than you know actual, US sales figures and if the Xbox One is winning or not.



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GribbleGrunger on 30 January 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:


... and the FACTS are, that the PS4 hasn't won a week since October. That's a fact, period. That's not my opinion, that's a fact. We have conjecture, we have opinion and we have estimates. But the only FACT is, that we still haven't seen the PS4 win a week since October. 

Haven't we? Are you taking VGC as 'fact'? Fact: last January (according to VGC) the XB1 outsold the PS4 every week. Fact: according to Amazon VGC was wrong and NPD proved it. Fact: Amazon have been right every single time. Fact: this happened in more than just January. Fact: Amazon has the PS4 beating the XB1 this month in the US. I too prefer to only deal in facts. The difference between you and a lot of posters on here is they prefer to go with a source with a 100% accuracy record, whilst you prefer to go with a source that had less than a 50% accuracy record.



 

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AlfredoTurkey on 30 January 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
AlfredoTurkey said:


... and the FACTS are, that the PS4 hasn't won a week since October. That's a fact, period. That's not my opinion, that's a fact. We have conjecture, we have opinion and we have estimates. But the only FACT is, that we still haven't seen the PS4 win a week since October. 

Haven't we? Are you taking VGC as 'fact'? Fact: last January (according to VGC) the XB1 outsold the PS4 every week. Fact: according to Amazon VGC was wrong and NPD proved it. Fact: Amazon have been right every single time. Fact: this happened in more than just January. Fact: Amazon has the PS4 beating the XB1 this month in the US. I too prefer to only deal in facts.

Fact. PS4 hasn't beaten the Xbox One in the US since October. 



GribbleGrunger on 30 January 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Haven't we? Are you taking VGC as 'fact'? Fact: last January (according to VGC) the XB1 outsold the PS4 every week. Fact: according to Amazon VGC was wrong and NPD proved it. Fact: Amazon have been right every single time. Fact: this happened in more than just January. Fact: Amazon has the PS4 beating the XB1 this month in the US. I too prefer to only deal in facts.

Fact. PS4 hasn't beaten the Xbox One in the US since October. 

Fact: It has and Amazon has proven it. I've got proof from a source with 100% accuracy. What's your source? It doesn't mean that Amazon can't be wrong, it just means that Amazon is more likely to be right because of a perfect record.



 

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AlfredoTurkey on 30 January 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Haven't we? Are you taking VGC as 'fact'? Fact: last January (according to VGC) the XB1 outsold the PS4 every week. Fact: according to Amazon VGC was wrong and NPD proved it. Fact: Amazon have been right every single time. Fact: this happened in more than just January. Fact: Amazon has the PS4 beating the XB1 this month in the US. I too prefer to only deal in facts.

Fact. PS4 hasn't beaten the Xbox One in the US since October. 

Fact: It has and Amazon has proven it. I've got proof from a source with 100% accuracy. What's your source?


What's my source for the claim that the Xbox One won November and December? How's NPD for you? Is that legit enough? 



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GribbleGrunger on 30 January 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:


What's my source for the claim that the Xbox One won November and December? How's NPD for you? Is that legit enough? 

What are the NPD numbers for January?

Or are you now changing the goalposts:

Fact. PS4 hasn't beaten the Xbox One in the US since October.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


AlfredoTurkey on 30 January 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
AlfredoTurkey said:


What's my source for the claim that the Xbox One won November and December? How's NPD for you? Is that legit enough? 

What are the NPD numbers for January?

Or are you now changing the goalposts:

Fact. PS4 hasn't beaten the Xbox One in the US since October.


I never said I knew PS4 lost January. I never said Xbone won January. I said that it's going to win the US in 2015. I said it's going to win the US this generation. That's my OPINION. I never I knew for a fact that anything was winning January. You, on the other hand, are claiming you do. 

No one knows who won until NPD says so. Claiming otherwise is just... yeah.



Mikmster on 30 January 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
Mikmster said:

Facts, they are what they are.  Not what you wish they be.  


... and the FACTS are, that the PS4 hasn't won a week since October. That's a fact, period. That's not my opinion, that's a fact. We have conjecture, we have opinion and we have estimates. But the only FACT is, that we still haven't seen the PS4 win a week since October. 


lol it won every week of January, every one knows it amazon proves it.

I doubt you be posting much after ndp and the mass adjustemts vg will do.



GribbleGrunger on 30 January 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:


I never said I knew PS4 lost January. I never said Xbone won January. I said that it's going to win the US in 2015. I said it's going to win the US this generation. That's my OPINION. I never I knew for a fact that anything was winning January. You, on the other hand, are claiming you do. 

No one knows who won until NPD says so. Claiming otherwise is just... yeah.

Yep, you're changing the goalposts. You said that the XB1 hasn't lost in the US since October. We are now towards the end of January, so your statement HAS to include January for it to be correct. You can't now say you meant up to the end of Dec. You should have said that.



 

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TheObserver on 30 January 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
GribbleGrunger said:

What are the NPD numbers for January?

Or are you now changing the goalposts:

Fact. PS4 hasn't beaten the Xbox One in the US since October.


I never said I knew PS4 lost January. I never said Xbone won January. I said that it's going to win the US in 2015. I said it's going to win the US this generation. That's my OPINION. I never I knew for a fact that anything was winning January. You, on the other hand, are claiming you do. 

No one knows who won until NPD says so. Claiming otherwise is just... yeah.


lol, dude you should calm down, and infact start accepting the PS4 will win January, cause you know it's gonna happen. Denying it this hard might give you a stroke when NPD results come out.