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@XtremeHDGamerX: So basically everywhere we have two competing PS4 skews competing against one single Xbox One skew being bought the Xbox One is temporarily winning. Like Target for example 1 Xbox One, 2 PS4 new skew that will dominate with more time, and 5 PS4 standalone edition.

Things are looking extremely positive for the PS4.  Considering the delay these lists have, that new PS4 skew is going to dominate.



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I don't get it.. how is the TLOU bundle in the first page of the best sellers if it's "coming soon" and won't let you buy it? And why did BB stay this long selling those PS4s without TLOU? and apparently Target did the same thing. These two seem to be phasing out the regular bundle in favor of a TLOU bundle

Walmart doesn't even have the tlou bundle



Protendo said:

@XtremeHDGamerX: So basically everywhere we have two competing PS4 skews competing against one single Xbox One skew being bought the Xbox One is temporarily winning. Like Target for example 1 Xbox One, 2 PS4 new skew that will dominate with more time, and 5 PS4 standalone edition.

Things are looking extremely positive for the PS4.  Considering the delay these lists have, that new PS4 skew is going to dominate.


I 100% agree especially when The Order 1886 is so close to releasing.



Logicishere said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Pionner said:
when someone has to mention what system they own before they go on and give their thoughts about it as if were true, inevitable? Yeah right.......You know what's up. By the way, XB1 has passed PS4 on BB charts. Lets see how long it last.


The reason people have to say that is people of people like you lol. On the internet, you're considered the "f" word is you have an opinion on anything. So, you have to preface it with "I own bla bla bla". It's ridiculous.

Saying you own both is the ultimate stealth trolling, even if you do, means nothing, people have their own bias, preferece regardless. it is something people who are going to troll post.

 

where is your proof 360 gamers are not upgrading only ps3 gamers??? Out of your ass?? Sony hass the research that proves your wrong. Noit to mention I know many 360 only gamers last gen on gaf and in person that only wet with ps4 this gen. total BS.

 

Ps4 is winning US, even with x1 is at 350...What happens this year when ps4 gets a price cut?? Hint, x1 is not outselling ps4.


Where is YOUR proof? Where is ANYBODIES proof in this thread? This is an opinion thread. It's my opinion that Xbone will win and I've given my reasons. If you don't agree, that's fine. In the end, time will prove one of us right and one of us wrong. I'm fine with being wrong. Are you?

And you say the PS4 is winning. It hasn't won since... what, October? What is the overall lead now? Like, 600,000? Simple math says that Xbone will catch up and pull ahead at some point unless the PS4 can somehow start winning weeks again.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Logicishere said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Pionner said:
when someone has to mention what system they own before they go on and give their thoughts about it as if were true, inevitable? Yeah right.......You know what's up. By the way, XB1 has passed PS4 on BB charts. Lets see how long it last.


The reason people have to say that is people of people like you lol. On the internet, you're considered the "f" word is you have an opinion on anything. So, you have to preface it with "I own bla bla bla". It's ridiculous.

Saying you own both is the ultimate stealth trolling, even if you do, means nothing, people have their own bias, preferece regardless. it is something people who are going to troll post.

 

where is your proof 360 gamers are not upgrading only ps3 gamers??? Out of your ass?? Sony hass the research that proves your wrong. Noit to mention I know many 360 only gamers last gen on gaf and in person that only wet with ps4 this gen. total BS.

 

Ps4 is winning US, even with x1 is at 350...What happens this year when ps4 gets a price cut?? Hint, x1 is not outselling ps4.


Where is YOUR proof? Where is ANYBODIES proof in this thread? This is an opinion thread. It's my opinion that Xbone will win and I've given my reasons. If you don't agree, that's fine. In the end, time will prove one of us right and one of us wrong. I'm fine with being wrong. Are you?

And you say the PS4 is winning. It hasn't won since... what, October? What is the overall lead now? Like, 600,000? Simple math says that Xbone will catch up and pull ahead at some point unless the PS4 can somehow start winning weeks again.


Its winning january tho.



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Pionner said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Pionner said:
when someone has to mention what system they own before they go on and give their thoughts about it as if were true, inevitable? Yeah right.......You know what's up. By the way, XB1 has passed PS4 on BB charts. Lets see how long it last.


The reason people have to say that is people of people like you lol. On the internet, you're considered the "f" word is you have an opinion on anything. So, you have to preface it with "I own bla bla bla". It's ridiculous.



 Things have been going in the complete opposite direction this generation.

Except since Oct where the Xbone has won... every... single... week.



Aura7541 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

I think the reason Xbone is going to win the US and why it's inevitable is because we're seeing a late uptake in people upgrading from last generation on the 360's side. It's starting to look like the PS3 last generation where alot of people wanted one, but waited until the price came down. The Xbone launched at a ridiculous $500.00 price tag. I think we were all thrown off by this and assumed those early PS4 numbers were people jumping ship. I think some of it might have been due to that but now, it's looking to be alot smaller than we anticipated. 

There were ALOT of hold overs this generation. Way more than ever before... or atleast in modern times. I think this (2015) is the year we see the majority of them upgrade and I fully expect the Xbone to win the US because of the 360. 

You're running on the assumption that 360 users will automatically get an X1 and that is deeply flawed. One thing's for sure is that the majority of a console's userbase is not loyal to the company who makes that particular console. This was proven from the transition from the PS2 to PS3. We are seeing a similar situation with the transition from the 360 to X1. The PS4 is winning over what I call the "swing" gamers. These gamers hold no preference for one company over another and will purchase the console they think has better value.

And this is why the PS4 is outselling the X1 even though the X1 is cheaper by $50 with two games instead of just one. Gamers see that there is more value in the PS4. Grim Fandango Remastered is coming out on the 27th; The Order: 1886 comes out next month; Bloodborne in March; MLB 15: The Show in March; Toukiden Kiwami in March; Omega Quintet in April; and Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD in spring. There are several other games coming out such as Tearaway Unfolded, Ratchet and Clank Redux, The Tomorrow Children, Wild, No Man's Sky, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, The Forest, Rime, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, and lots more. What does the X1 have to match the PS4 in terms of quality and quantity?

You'll buy and play all those games... and so will I. So will the majority of core gamers who live and breath gaming, go online and post in message boards and otherwise spend most of their time doing game related things. But dude bros wont and dude bros are what makes the Xbox brand what it is in the US. 

People like us are not in the voting majority. If we were, COD wouldn't have outsold Uncharted.



AlfredoTurkey said:

And you say the PS4 is winning. It hasn't won since... what, October? What is the overall lead now? Like, 600,000? Simple math says that Xbone will catch up and pull ahead at some point unless the PS4 can somehow start winning weeks again.

As someone who minored in both math and statistics, could you explain this simple math that allows you to feel so confident in your reasons behind the Xbox One's January win?



AlfredoTurkey said:
Pionner said:


 Things have been going in the complete opposite direction this generation.

Except since Oct where the Xbone has won... every... single... week.


Except every week in January...

Btw you said this is an "opinion thread", but it is not.



CGI-Quality said:
Logicishere said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

- snip

Not once ever has the leading console in the US changed this far into a gen, x1 spike was a price cut spike, it was temporary. You are going to be wrong.

Actually, it has. The 360 passed the Wii (if I'm not mistaken), but something like that is generally rare. I agree with your bottom line, though. The PS4 will remain ahead in the US. If and when trends start showing a sudden one-sided favoring of the X1, then I think it'll be time to concede. But only then.


The SNES also passed the Genesis after three years on the market. It's happened more than once.