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In UK, situation is now really worrying for XB1: PS4 has 3 SKU ranked higher than the competitively priced XB1 at amazon.co.uk:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-PC-Video-Games-Consoles/zgbs/videogames/676171011/ref=zg_bs_nav_vg_h__1_vg_h_


PS4 ranks: 52 (GTA5 bundle 349£), 70 (black 329£), 139 (white 329£)
XB1 rank: 153 (299£)

Compared to that, XB1 is doing really well at Amazon.com!



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TheGoldenBoy said:
thismeintiel said:

I think Evole's lack of interest probably stems from them announcing how they are tackling DLC, and the prices that go along with it.  I think people are just getting tired of DLC milking.  Especially for small things like 6-7 new characters for $25.

And the fact that it just doesn't look all that interesting and the gaming media seems to have an agenda towards it.


By agenda you mean "in favor"?



AlfredoTurkey said:
Aura7541 said:
Roronaa_chan said:
The XB1 fell from #11 to #14. Hum

So it looks like the X1's baseline will be lower than the PS4's despite having a $50 price advantage. And this is before PS4 begins to have The Order: 1886, Bloodborne, MLB 15: The Show, etc. to temporarily boost sales.


Let me say this before I get charged with something I never said... I own a PS4... my GF is currently sitting next to me, playing Minecraft on said PS4... I actually like my PS4... but if we're going to be honest here, those games are not casual enough to warrant much of a boost if any boost at all. The types of games that really boost consoles are the ones with mass appeal like MK8, Titanfall, Halo, COD... you get the picture. 

This whole thing where fanboys are up in arms over the Xbone taking the US, it's nonsense because it's inevitable. I don't think they should be conerned with it. Of course, a fanboy is a fanboy for a reason, and being rational is not one of those, but really, it's stupid. The PS4 is going to win in total WW sales. 

 

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You do realize that Sony have not made any drastic measure yet right? besides, history has show us that the US market are the less loyal of all, they just go for what is popular at the moment and even if the xbox one surpassed the ps4, the gap will be nowhere near the 360/ps3 gap which still is a win for Sony.  As long as the gap remain close, I'm sure Sony will be satisfied by it because they are gaining back the marketshare lost in Europe last gen.



Roronaa_chan said:
TheGoldenBoy said:
thismeintiel said:

I think Evole's lack of interest probably stems from them announcing how they are tackling DLC, and the prices that go along with it.  I think people are just getting tired of DLC milking.  Especially for small things like 6-7 new characters for $25.

And the fact that it just doesn't look all that interesting and the gaming media seems to have an agenda towards it.

By agenda you mean "in favor"?

Yeah, in favor. Many gamers online don't seem that interested in it and that even before all the DLC news came out.



TheGoldenBoy said:
Roronaa_chan said:

By agenda you mean "in favor"?

Yeah, in favor. Many gamers online don't seem that interested in it and that even before all the DLC news came out.

Umm.... Slight misunderstanding perhaps?



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Teeqoz said:
TheGoldenBoy said:
Roronaa_chan said:

By agenda you mean "in favor"?

Yeah, in favor. Many gamers online don't seem that interested in it and that even before all the DLC news came out.

Umm.... Slight misunderstanding perhaps?

I mean the gaming media is in favor of Evolve, whereas gamers online don't care about it. If the gaming media is to be believed, the game is already a contender for GOTY.



TheGoldenBoy said:
Teeqoz said:

Umm.... Slight misunderstanding perhaps?

I mean the gaming media is in favor of Evolve, whereas gamers online don't care about it. If the gaming media is to be believed, the game is already a contender for GOTY.


Oh okay. That makes much more sense!



Aura7541 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

I think the reason Xbone is going to win the US and why it's inevitable is because we're seeing a late uptake in people upgrading from last generation on the 360's side. It's starting to look like the PS3 last generation where alot of people wanted one, but waited until the price came down. The Xbone launched at a ridiculous $500.00 price tag. I think we were all thrown off by this and assumed those early PS4 numbers were people jumping ship. I think some of it might have been due to that but now, it's looking to be alot smaller than we anticipated. 

There were ALOT of hold overs this generation. Way more than ever before... or atleast in modern times. I think this (2015) is the year we see the majority of them upgrade and I fully expect the Xbone to win the US because of the 360. 

You're running on the assumption that 360 users will automatically get an X1 and that is deeply flawed. One thing's for sure is that the majority of a console's userbase is not loyal to the company who makes that particular console. This was proven from the transition from the PS2 to PS3. We are seeing a similar situation with the transition from the 360 to X1. The PS4 is winning over what I call the "swing" gamers. These gamers hold no preference for one company over another and will purchase the console they think has better value.

And this is why the PS4 is outselling the X1 even though the X1 is cheaper by $50 with two games instead of just one. Gamers see that there is more value in the PS4. Grim Fandango Remastered is coming out on the 27th; The Order: 1886 comes out next month; Bloodborne in March; MLB 15: The Show in March; Toukiden Kiwami in March; Omega Quintet in April; and Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD in spring. There are several other games coming out such as Tearaway Unfolded, Ratchet and Clank Redux, The Tomorrow Children, Wild, No Man's Sky, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, The Forest, Rime, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, and lots more. What does the X1 have to match the PS4 in terms of quality and quantity?

Actually a majority of PS2 owners are loyal to PS because PS3 >50% PS2. Also pretty much 100% Xbox owners bought 360. And 100% GC owners bought Wii, probably, and they will also almost all buy Wii U. So I would say a majority of long time gamers are loyal to a brand. But there is a sizeable minority who are not. Most of them went PS2 --> Wii or 360, because most of them bought a PS2 as their first console so they had no particular brand loyalty in gen 6, and swapping in gen 7 means no brand loyalty there either. They seem to be mostly, but not entirely, going back to PS this gen.



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TheGoldenBoy said:

I mean the gaming media is in favor of Evolve, whereas gamers online don't care about it. If the gaming media is to be believed, the game is already a contender for GOTY.

Is it bad that I even forgot about the game.  So much for a lasting impression. If someone asked me about the game the last thing I remember is the aweful DLC milking announcement.

binary solo said:

9And 100% GC owners bought Wii, probably, and they will also almost all buy Wii U

Cool story bro.  So what your saying is the size of this userbase is insignificant, or Wii-U is going to have an amazing comeback?



Xbox is winning at BestBuy  http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?nrp=15&cp=1&seeAll=&browsedCategory=abcat0700000&qp=&ks=960&sp=-bestsellingsort%20skuidsaas&sc=Global&list=y&usc=All%20Categories&type=page&id=pcat17071&iht=n&st=categoryid%24abcat0700000&lid=Products:%20All%20New%20Releases

PS4 is wining at Walmart http://www.walmart.com/browse/video-games/2636?cat_id=2636&facet=video_game_platform:PlayStation%204%7C%7Cvideo_game_platform:Xbox%20One

XBox One is winning at Gamestop sorted by New items and bestselling, http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=2b24,28-xu0,134f

PS4 is winning at Amazon PS4 is # 8 and is Xbox one is at # 17 http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_12

Amazon Best Sellers of 2015 (so far) PS4 is # 8 and Xbox one is # 18 http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2015/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_cal_ye

PS4 is winning at Toysrus PS4 # 21 and # 30  http://www.toysrus.com/viewall/index.jsp?categoryId=2255974&cp=2255974&viewAll=topSellers&pmc=1

http://www.toysrus.com/search/index.jsp?s=A-UnitRank&size=24&fd=Sony+Computer+Entertainment&fd=Microsoft&origkw=consoles&ff=PAD&ff=PAD&fv=Brand+Name+Secondary%2FSony+Computer+Entertainment&fv=Brand+Name+Secondary%2FMicrosoft&fg=Brand&fg=Brand&keywords=consoles&kw=consoles&page=1

Xbox one is winning at Target http://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=console&category=9975893|All|matchallpartial+rel+ALL|video+games&kwr=y&lnk=lnav_narrow%20by%20category_1&ipr=#navigation=true&searchTerm=console&sortBy=bestselling&Nao=0&viewType=medium&category=9975893|All|matchallpartial rel ALL|video games

BestBuy -Xbox one

Walmart-PS4

GameStop-Xbox one

Amazon-PS4

Toysrus-PS4

Target-Xbox