Pionner said: Teeqoz said: Pionner said: CosmicSex said: I have been watching the lists for over a year. Eventually you pick up on these things. But since I told you all you have to do is watch both lists for 24 hours to see if I am right (I am seriously trying to save you some time lol.) There is no grand mystery to it... what I described is exactly how it works :) No offence but i thought you had some definitive proof, not your observation. I think what, thismeintiel, said makes more sense. That's the way i always looked at it. Nobody really knows of course but that's the easiest and most logical explanation. I'll try watching the M&S list to see any similarities Cosmic is right. If you want proof, take this: Unless the PS4 falls to number 9, the red arrow will dissapear soon. Teeqoz said: Also, guys, on Amazon, it's not called hourly bestsellers, that's just what we call it. On Amazon, it's simply called "Amazon bestsellers" and described as "Our most popular products based on sales. Updated hourly." The arrows are based on rankings from 24 hours earlier. They have nothing to do with sales in correlation to last hour. Just look at the PSN cards, do you think all three of them sell exactly the same every hour? And pay attention to te PS4, unless it falls to number 9, the red arrow will dissapear soon. How do I know this? Well, either I'm a psycic, or the way I described above is how the list works Ok i saw it. Now what exactly are you both trying to prove with this? Whether 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, Amazon is showing PS4 is selling more. I didn't see this needed to be explained when XB1 was selling more for 2 months. Does it matter that Amazon has a unique way of doing this? The end result is the same.

There was some misunderstanding about what the arrows represented and I wanted to offer insight because I understand it.   Nothing to prove really, just trying to help folks out on Chartz :)

Pfft. That doesn't mean anything. All they have to do is give away six more games and a gift card included with just a down payment of 50 bucks and all is fine. Phil Spencer don't need no profits.

I think almost everyone knew that but they would never admit it. But it's great to see because the industry is better with ps4 as #1 in my opinion.  

Plus it's my console of choice so I'm happy for selfish reasons :p

Just imagine how much more the PS4 "might" be selling if the image had TLOU game on it

I'm happy that the US is spending more on the more powerful console. I had a feeling that once the "holiday/parent buying season" stopped, we would see a bigger representation of consumers buying what they want instead of gifters going for the best deal.

did the wii u ever win an NPD?

riecsou said: Just imagine how much more the PS4 "might" be selling if the image had TLOU game on it

Which is weird because the image used to be on there. Amazon's shady as hell.

Did Amazon just change the PS4+TLOU picture to a solus PS4 in the charts? Wow something fishy going on.

I say they guarantee a win and just give away a free ps4 with every x1 purchase.

What is happening on the french amazon? amiibos taking top spots, and the 3ds versions are the 5 highest selling consoles...