All these people should be arrested and shot for treason.

mesoteto said: wait whats that mister president, what would you do if the cops were coming for you,

 that is the perfect pic

crumas2 said: ^^ I like the ability to protest, but that they've done is just childish. What if a town in Texas had passed an ordinance stating that Bill Clinton would be arrested if he crossed into the city limits? It's a ridiculous demonstration of arrogance, i.e. - regardless what the majority of Americans decide, we as a single town will decide who is or isn't a legitimate leader of the country, and we will act solely as his judge and jury regarding the performance of his duties.

Why Bill Clinton in Texas? And its hardly fair to compare him just because he was a liberal. Bush is by far the worst president in history. America has gone from a golden age to a depression all under his command, while we entered a war for WMD's where none were to be found. We INVADED a country, killed innocent people, removed a leader from power(which is illegal), tortured detainee's without a trial(which is illegal), Americans are getting dumber and dumber every year, the dollar is shit poor, and our country is more divided than ever.

Im sorry, Bush gets no respect and just because a man wins an election doesn't mean he deserves respect. They can act however they choose because its what its population voted for. Arrogance is when you go against the world's will and invade a country while lying to the American people, then drag on the war for years just to protect your image.

Bring back Clinton. Played the sax, kept the country running fairly smoothly and still had time for an affair. WHAT A GUY!

Clinton for the next UK PM! 

nordlead said: mesoteto said: wait whats that mister president, what would you do if the cops were coming for you, that is the perfect pic

 yeah that is...

nice pic!!! 

Jandre002 said: crumas2 said: ^^ I like the ability to protest, but that they've done is just childish. What if a town in Texas had passed an ordinance stating that Bill Clinton would be arrested if he crossed into the city limits? It's a ridiculous demonstration of arrogance, i.e. - regardless what the majority of Americans decide, we as a single town will decide who is or isn't a legitimate leader of the country, and we will act solely as his judge and jury regarding the performance of his duties. Why Bill Clinton in Texas? And its hardly fair to compare him just because he was a liberal. Bush is by far the worst president in history. America has gone from a golden age to a depression all under his command, while we entered a war for WMD's where none were to be found. We INVADED a country, killed innocent people, removed a leader from power(which is illegal), tortured detainee's without a trial(which is illegal), Americans are getting dumber and dumber every year, the dollar is shit poor, and our country is more divided than ever. Im sorry, Bush gets no respect and just because a man wins an election doesn't mean he deserves respect. They can act however they choose because its what its population voted for. Arrogance is when you go against the world's will and invade a country while lying to the American people, then drag on the war for years just to protect your image.

LOL!  Well, we all have the right to our own opinions, but you could at least try to make somewhat plausible arguments:

1. It's difficult to have a "depression" when unemployment is well below 10 percent.  I don't know who gets to decide what an economic "golden age" is... would that be before or after Clinton signed NAFTA, which made it easier to move factories to Mexico?  Ooooo, wait... that was a bad thing that Bill did... it doesn't count.  Sorry, I forgot to adhere to the "double-standard" rule.

2. We invaded a country, Germany, in WWII, killed innocent people, and forced the German government to submit to other nations.  And Bill Clinton sent us overseas to be a police force for the world in Kosovo.  Please try again.

3. Worst president in history?  I don't know, I think Carter was pretty bad.  I can remember going to the unemployment office near the end of his presidency when inflation AND unemployment were both over 10 percent.  Make Bush and Clinton seem like geniouses in comparison.  Add to that the fact that Mr. Carter's family openly takes advantage of the federal law which limits farming of peanuts to "select" families... gee, I guess he's not such a grand fellow, either.

4. It isn't Bush that we need to respect, it's the office of the President.  If every time we have a beef with our president we call for his head, then the idea of "We the People" as the government weakens.  If I don't like your choice for president and I think he should be impeached, regardless what is decided by others, that doesn't give the right to spit in the face of others by calling for the arrest of that leader.  I didn't like Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton in a lot of ways, but I would never have advocated they be arrested by some town of morons who think they know what's best for the rest of us.

5. Lying to the American people, blah, blah, blah.  Too bad the Congress voted for the war, including Hillary and other liberals, after seeing the same CIA evidence that Bush saw.  Oooo, wait... I forgot... can't hold liberals to the same standard... sorry.  

I suggest doing a little research before tossing around words like "depression" without actually knowing what they mean.

 

crumas2 said: Jandre002 said: crumas2 said: ^^ I like the ability to protest, but that they've done is just childish. What if a town in Texas had passed an ordinance stating that Bill Clinton would be arrested if he crossed into the city limits? It's a ridiculous demonstration of arrogance, i.e. - regardless what the majority of Americans decide, we as a single town will decide who is or isn't a legitimate leader of the country, and we will act solely as his judge and jury regarding the performance of his duties. Why Bill Clinton in Texas? And its hardly fair to compare him just because he was a liberal. Bush is by far the worst president in history. America has gone from a golden age to a depression all under his command, while we entered a war for WMD's where none were to be found. We INVADED a country, killed innocent people, removed a leader from power(which is illegal), tortured detainee's without a trial(which is illegal), Americans are getting dumber and dumber every year, the dollar is shit poor, and our country is more divided than ever. Im sorry, Bush gets no respect and just because a man wins an election doesn't mean he deserves respect. They can act however they choose because its what its population voted for. Arrogance is when you go against the world's will and invade a country while lying to the American people, then drag on the war for years just to protect your image. LOL!  Well, we all have the right to our own opinions, but you could at least try to make somewhat plausible arguments: 1. It's difficult to have a "depression" when unemployment is well below 10 percent.  I don't know who gets to decide what an economic "golden age" is... would that be before or after Clinton signed NAFTA, which made it easier to move factories to Mexico?  Ooooo, wait... that was a bad thing that Bill did... it doesn't count.  Sorry, I forgot to adhere to the "double-standard" rule. 2. We invaded a country, Germany, in WWII, killed innocent people, and forced the German government to submit to other nations.  And Bill Clinton sent us overseas to be a police force for the world in Kosovo.  Please try again. 3. Worst president in history?  I don't know, I think Carter was pretty bad.  I can remember going to the unemployment office near the end of his presidency when inflation AND unemployment were both over 10 percent.  Make Bush and Clinton seem like geniouses in comparison.  Add to that the fact that Mr. Carter's family openly takes advantage of the federal law which limits farming of peanuts to "select" families... gee, I guess he's not such a grand fellow, either. 4. It isn't Bush that we need to respect, it's the office of the President.  If every time we have a beef with our president we call for his head, then the idea of "We the People" as the government weakens.  If I don't like your choice for president and I think he should be impeached, regardless what is decided by others, that doesn't give the right to spit in the face of others by calling for the arrest of that leader.  I didn't like Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton in a lot of ways, but I would never have advocated they be arrested by some town of morons who think they know what's best for the rest of us. 5. Lying to the American people, blah, blah, blah.  Too bad the Congress voted for the war, including Hillary and other liberals, after seeing the same CIA evidence that Bush saw.  Oooo, wait... I forgot... can't hold liberals to the same standard... sorry.   I suggest doing a little research before tossing around words like "depression" without actually knowing what they mean.

Well said, Crumas.

And I have to mention that, despite accusation of  hundreds of lies, oil stealing, and murdering innocents, Democrat-majority congress has not even attempted to reprimanded him.  I guess they don't take the screams of toddlers too seriously.

Let's not forget that during Clinton's administration a recession started,
Clinton had an illegal war in Bosnia, one that killed innocent people and disposed a dictator, and didn't even have approval of congress but instead circumvented it by using US nato forces to enter into a non-nato nation,
Clinton also repeated bombed the snot out of Iraq under the pretense of the presence of weapons of mass destruction, so basically the current Iraq war is little more than extension of his bombing runs
The current unemployment rate is the same as the average under Clinton,
Bush admin is doing nothing about Darfur, guess what Clinton did about Rawanda? oh right nothing.
Clinton fell backward into the internet boom so basically the economy was pure luck at the time, not that the president has any control over the economy anyway, I'll give you a hint at who actually is (the person sitting reading this post)
Clinton allowed numerous Oil and Telecommunication mergers under his administration, but at least he tried to protect us from big bad microsoft.
there are more crumby thing about Clinton but they are too many to enumerate, the point is Clinton sucks just as much as Bush, the only difference is Celebrities and left wing activists didn't care about his failings,
and for the record if you look at Presidents Nixon was probably one of the best but people hate him for really no reason except the audacity to spy on the democrats and his "enemies list" which all indications point to that he didn't even know about it.
1. Nixon opened relations with China, really weakening the Soviet's position in the cold war, which helped to enforce detente
2.Hanoi would have surrendered eventually under his tactics, well I guess commy sympathizers wouldn't like either of those
3. Worthwhile and actually effective environmental acts like Superfund were under Nixon, but Environmentalists like things that control peoples lives not actually get things done
4. The actual enforcement of Brown v Board was under Nixon,
5. Nixon actually proposed enacting a law forcing all employers to provide health care insurance and make a sliding scale government provided health care insurance, what made this different is that the state didn't control all health care, but it still created a forum in which health care

That's so stupid, people are so ignorant.

masschamber said: Let's not forget that during Clinton's administration a recession started, Clinton had an illegal war in Bosnia, one that killed innocent people and disposed a dictator, and didn't even have approval of congress but instead circumvented it by using US nato forces to enter into a non-nato nation, Clinton also repeated bombed the snot out of Iraq under the pretense of the presence of weapons of mass destruction, so basically the current Iraq war is little more than extension of his bombing runs The current unemployment rate is the same as the average under Clinton, Bush admin is doing nothing about Darfur, guess what Clinton did about Rawanda? oh right nothing. Clinton fell backward into the internet boom so basically the economy was pure luck at the time, not that the president has any control over the economy anyway, I'll give you a hint at who actually is (the person sitting reading this post) Clinton allowed numerous Oil and Telecommunication mergers under his administration, but at least he tried to protect us from big bad microsoft. there are more crumby thing about Clinton but they are too many to enumerate, the point is Clinton sucks just as much as Bush, the only difference is Celebrities and left wing activists didn't care about his failings, and for the record if you look at Presidents Nixon was probably one of the best but people hate him for really no reason except the audacity to spy on the democrats and his "enemies list" which all indications point to that he didn't even no about it. 1. Nixon opened relations with China, really weakening the Soviet's position in the cold war, which helped to enforce detente 2.Hanoi would have surrendered eventually under his tactics, well I guess commy sympathizers wouldn't like either of those 3. Worthwhile and actually effective environmental acts like Superfund were under Nixon, but Environmentalists like things that control peoples lives not actually get things done 4. The actual enforcement of Brown v Board was under Nixon, 5. Nixon actually proposed enacting a law forcing all employers to provide health care insurance and make a sliding scale government provided health care insurance, what made this different is that the state didn't control all health care, but it still created a forum in which health care

Nixon did a lot of really great things as president which are overshadowed by his paranoia-fueled abuses of power. 

Bush's presidency has been marked by one failure after another and the only things his administration has been really good at are abusing power, flaunting laws up to and including the U.S. Constitution, dodging blame, and cutting taxes. 

Frankly I'd prefer Nixon, by a mile.  But to claim that he somehow didn't know about all the crap that was going on, much of it as a direct result of his orders ... well, let's just say your grasp of American history is shaky at best.