Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Giggs_11 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Slade6alpha said:
Mystro-Sama said: I agree with practically everything. Though you can't really expect hardcore Nintendo fans to see it your way, they're so fucking conservative when it comes to everything. Everything has to be a tradition that MUST be upheld. That mindset is why most of Nintendo's IPs haven't really changed much since years gone by, whether for good or bad. |
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Agree with what the OP says and agree with this too.
I'm okay with Link being silent, but for God sake Nintendo, it's 2014.
Edit: To expand on what you said, this has been one of my biggest issues with Nintendo and their fanbase, which affect the games as well. They both are too comfortable and too rigid for traditional values in games. As a result, it's just more or less the same thing that has been produced by them as well. IMO.
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Can you blame them though? When other Japanese companies went "out of tradition," they fucked up their games pretty badly... Look at Resident Evil for example, once the pinnacle of survival horror is now this average action game and the last thing we want is Nintendo going the same route with their beloved franchises
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Couldn't disagree more with these posts...
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At least say why...
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Nintendo is conservative yes, in some ways, and a few Nintendo gamers are conservative. But when I read "most of Nintendo's IPs haven't really changed much since years gone by" it baffles me really, since Nintendo ans Nintendo gamers are actually the ones who endure more new and different things. I don't want to make a big thread on this since it's not the right topic for it but so I'll make, instead a few topics.
Consoles/controllers
N64 - Gamecube - Wii - WiiU: Nintendo owners see Analog - Dual Analog - motion controllers - tablet controller, everyone else see: gimmick - gimmick - gimmick
PS1 - PS2 - PS3 - PS4: don't need to point out, controllers are pretty much always the same
Xbox - X360 - X1: don't need to point out, controllers are pretty much always the same
Games (Xbox/PS heavy sellers)
Uncharted - 1 to 4, all in same generation, all same game, improved visuals, different story
CoDs - 1 to 367th, mostly 7h generation, all same game, same visuals, differente story (worse every itineration)
FIFA - every itineration same game, different teams (a few players that is)
Assassin's Creed - Same game, same visuals (improved with unity), same gameplay, different story, gets worse every new itineration, they now seam to release 2 games per year (!)
GT/Forza - same games, same gameplay, improved visuals (only per generation, but they release more than one game per generation), hell until PS3 generation GT had 7 entries (not counting prologues and such) while Mario Kart had until Wii 4 entries and has been around since SNES (one generation earlier)
Games (Nintendo heavy sellers)
Mario - Super Mario Bros (SNES) - Super Mario 64 (N64) - Super Mario Sunshine (NGC) - Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) - NewSMBros (Wii) - SM3DW (Wii U) which are: 2d mario - 3d Mario open worldish - 3d Mario open worldish where gameplay revolves around a waterthrower - can't really describe what Galaxy is but again it's completely differente gameplay - again back to 2d Marios 3 generations later - 3D mario in closed levels (can't find the words to describe it)
Metroid: Super Metroid - skips generation - Prime Trilogy - Other M and that is 2D Metroid - (skips generation) - 1st person adventure - 3D Metroid on 3rd person, different games, different stories, same skin
Zelda: Started as 2D open world from the top down, to 3D Zelda, to Celshaded Zelda, to linear Zelda with "gimmicky" motion controls, to open world 3D Zelda, i.e., it keeps changing with different aesthetics/art styles and gameplay tweaks
Mario Kart - Until Wii, 4 entries for consoles, few gameplay improvements over predecessor, improved graphics. This changes as much as a driving game can change, i.e., very few, the difference is you get one entry per gen while GT/Forza get get 2-3 games per gen;
SSBros - the same as for Mario Kart, Fighting genre doesn't change that much, but use Tekken/Street Fighter instead of GT/Forza
And could go on saying Nintendo publishes the likes of Bayonetta/Devil's Third, introduces motion control sports gaming in millions of homes with new concept called Wiisports games, several Mario games (Super charged, Tennis, Party - footall, Tennis, Party game, different games same skin), etc.
Long story short you might not like their games, might not like Mario & Co., might not like the "non-mature" and "gimmicky" way of Nintendo, they sure as hell have made several mistakes in the past, but to argue their IPs haven't changed much and they are the conservative ones (at least gamingwise) when other consoles sell tons of the same stuff every year, is just plain stupid, no offense.