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funnily enough i have my nook hd+ on sale ebay



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kowenicki said:
binary solo said:

I didn't realise you were so keen on MS ditching Xbox. 

/jk

/jk

yeah great.... original....

now if I had tried that elsewhere... BANHAMMER

Well you did leave the door wide open for it.

The fact that it's necessary to put /jk or a smiley face on a post like that in order to avoid a ban just shows how hyper-sensitive people are around here, people take things far too seriously, and they almost always attribute the ugliest of motives to what anyone writes. A lot of the time people do have ugly motives, but that just means people need to develop a bit of discernment.

In all good jokes, and some bad ones, there is a grain of truth. There are certainly people in MS, and some shareholders who do think Xbox is part of the rubbish that needs to be cut, which is exactly why some people would be very sensitive about a comment that implies Nadella should ditch Xbox. It's highly likely that there are senoir people at MS whispering such things in his ear. Maybe not even whispering.  However it's pretty obvious that the situations with Nook and Xbox are very different, not least of which is that Nook is getting cosy with the phone/tablet competition, so MS might have been thinking they either need to go all in (buy the whole thing) or get out. A halfway house situation was not tennable. And getting out was the better decision.



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kowenicki said:
binary solo said:
kowenicki said:
Excellent, stock up. Nadella keeps cutting the rubbish and focussing more effectively where he should be.

Stock up 33% since he took charge in less than one year, thats a market cap increase of $100bn in 10 months.

Shareholders are loving this guy.

I didn't realise you were so keen on MS ditching Xbox. 

/jk

/jk

yeah great.... original....

now if I had tried that elsewhere... BANHAMMER

Wow dude lighten up. He put jk and binary never does crap wrong. Stop acting like your being victimized frequently. 

I do find it funny you barely commented on the topic went on about finacial reports and ceos. The spin is real.

 

Ot- you wana make an omelette you gotta break some eggs. 



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If you look at the entire picture, Microsoft seems to make a LOT of mistakes. They come late to so many markets then try to bulldoze their way in with money. I suppose the reasoning is that they can afford to lose a lot of money in the effort to make even more money, as Windows will always bail them out.

Still, some of these decisions just seem bad. B&N was never going to win against Amazon and everyone knew it. It seems more like a reactionary move intended to throw up roadblocks for Amazon more than anything, which I suppose is similar to how Xbox got started. I really can't see the logic in this case, however. I would imagine that the Nook only generates a fraction of the sales that Amazon gets with the Kindle.

And, yes, I will admit to being biased, unlike others. I adore my Kindle Paperwhite.



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Every time you try to make business with Tom Nook you KNOW it will be a trouble for you, But you still trying...



pokoko said:
If you look at the entire picture, Microsoft seems to make a LOT of mistakes. They come late to so many markets then try to bulldoze their way in with money. I suppose the reasoning is that they can afford to lose a lot of money in the effort to make even more money, as Windows will always bail them out.

Still, some of these decisions just seem bad. B&N was never going to win against Amazon and everyone knew it. It seems more like a reactionary move intended to throw up roadblocks for Amazon more than anything, which I suppose is similar to how Xbox got started. I really can't see the logic in this case, however. I would imagine that the Nook only generates a fraction of the sales that Amazon gets with the Kindle.

And, yes, I will admit to being biased, unlike others. I adore my Kindle Paperwhite.


Thing is, they also make a lot of decisions right. This happens all the time with big companies. They acquire stuff because of analyzations and decide to buy themselves into the stuff. If it doesn't play out as expected, well, this happens. But to remain competitive you have to invest into new tech/companies and ideas, even existing markets.

Do you think MS would be the second most valuable company if they do THAT lot of mistakes?



smellybuttocks said:
kowenicki said:
Excellent, stock up. Nadella keeps cutting the rubbish and focussing more effectively where he should be.

Stock up 33% since he took charge in less than one year, thats a market cap increase of $100bn in 10 months.

Shareholders are loving this guy.


Just to let you know, this is why spme people were just saying that you probably wotk fot Microsoft, bc most of your posts are either a defense of the company or praise towards it.  Are involved in public relations for Microsoft?

He owns shares in Microsoft, I would be delighted too if I bought shares with them.



walsufnir said:
pokoko said:
If you look at the entire picture, Microsoft seems to make a LOT of mistakes. They come late to so many markets then try to bulldoze their way in with money. I suppose the reasoning is that they can afford to lose a lot of money in the effort to make even more money, as Windows will always bail them out.

Still, some of these decisions just seem bad. B&N was never going to win against Amazon and everyone knew it. It seems more like a reactionary move intended to throw up roadblocks for Amazon more than anything, which I suppose is similar to how Xbox got started. I really can't see the logic in this case, however. I would imagine that the Nook only generates a fraction of the sales that Amazon gets with the Kindle.

And, yes, I will admit to being biased, unlike others. I adore my Kindle Paperwhite.


Thing is, they also make a lot of decisions right. This happens all the time with big companies. They acquire stuff because of analyzations and decide to buy themselves into the stuff. If it doesn't play out as expected, well, this happens. But to remain competitive you have to invest into new tech/companies and ideas, even existing markets.

Do you think MS would be the second most valuable company if they do THAT lot of mistakes?

Well ... kinda, yeah.  Like Google, the core business of Microsoft is strong enough to off-set some monumental failures.  Owning a monopoly gives you a nice amount of cushion.  I'm not even sure they care about these other avenues even being all that profitable, they just want massive overall market penetration.

Zune, Kin, Origami, Courier, GFWL, the inane rebranding cycle, paying billions for that web ads service to take down google ...  and, to reinforce the point about Microsoft often being late to market, this from Captain Ballmer:

""There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance," said Ballmer. "It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get.""

They really have made a ton of mistakes.  I don't think that's an exaggeration at all.  Not that I'm complaining, mind you.  I don't want ANY company to own markets across the board.



pokoko said:
walsufnir said:
pokoko said:
If you look at the entire picture, Microsoft seems to make a LOT of mistakes. They come late to so many markets then try to bulldoze their way in with money. I suppose the reasoning is that they can afford to lose a lot of money in the effort to make even more money, as Windows will always bail them out.

Still, some of these decisions just seem bad. B&N was never going to win against Amazon and everyone knew it. It seems more like a reactionary move intended to throw up roadblocks for Amazon more than anything, which I suppose is similar to how Xbox got started. I really can't see the logic in this case, however. I would imagine that the Nook only generates a fraction of the sales that Amazon gets with the Kindle.

And, yes, I will admit to being biased, unlike others. I adore my Kindle Paperwhite.


Thing is, they also make a lot of decisions right. This happens all the time with big companies. They acquire stuff because of analyzations and decide to buy themselves into the stuff. If it doesn't play out as expected, well, this happens. But to remain competitive you have to invest into new tech/companies and ideas, even existing markets.

Do you think MS would be the second most valuable company if they do THAT lot of mistakes?

Well ... kinda, yeah.  Like Google, the core business of Microsoft is strong enough to off-set some monumental failures.  Owning a monopoly gives you a nice amount of cushion.  I'm not even sure they care about these other avenues even being all that profitable, they just want massive overall market penetration.

Zune, Kin, Origami, Courier, GFWL, the inane rebranding cycle, paying billions for that web ads service to take down google ...  and, to reinforce the point about Microsoft often being late to market, this from Captain Ballmer:

""There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance," said Ballmer. "It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get.""

They really have made a ton of mistakes.  I don't think that's an exaggeration at all.  Not that I'm complaining, mind you.  I don't want ANY company to own markets across the board.


But as always, media is especially mentioning more the bad decisions than the good ones. And of course representatives talk bullshit sometimes, not only Ballmer. Pointing to the failures we all know of doesn't help as MS is healthy as never before.

Making "tons" of mistakes in this time we live is as natural as breathing. You can't be a dynamic and evolving company and make only decisions which are completely safe to foresee in the future.